Sep 29, 2026 · 1h 14m
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AI spending tests Nvidia, markets and investor conviction
Bad feeling, weak internals, confidence collapse, Nvidia breaking out | WAYT?
The episode connects Nvidia’s corporate strength and AI ambitions with rising yields, fragile breadth, consumer weakness and the case for staying invested.
- 1Nvidia’s breakout rests on powerful cash generation and a proposed $150 billion buyback, but valuation and political exposure remain central questions.
- 2Rising Treasury yields and the costly AI infrastructure buildout are challenging the stock-bond tradeoff without yet breaking market resilience.
- 3Weak breadth, consumer strain and sector failures argue for caution, while long-term charts make a case against abandoning markets entirely.
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The brief
Josh Brown and Matt open a chart-heavy discussion with Nvidia’s breakout, valuation, cash generation and proposed $150 billion buyback at the center.
Nvidia’s strength is inseparable from Jensen Huang’s political and business influence, as the hosts examine how government relationships serve strategic and shareholder interests.
Rising Treasury yields and the financing demands of AI infrastructure sharpen the stock-bond tradeoff, even as the market continues to shrug off troubling signals.
Weak breadth, falling consumer confidence and failures across fitness and wearables make the market’s resilience look increasingly selective rather than broad-based.
Matt’s long-term charts defend staying invested, while Josh argues rising yields make utilities unattractive; the mystery chart ultimately reveals IMAX.
What was said on this episode
32 statements · 17 positive · 14 negative · 1 neutral
Nvidia appears poised to break above its technical resistance level.
“Nvidia looks like It wants to break out.”
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Nvidia’s chart indicates a buy.
“But just purely on the chart, if you hid the name, this is a buy to me.”
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Nvidia’s chart indicates readiness for an upward move.
“again, purely based just on the chart, it looks like It's ready.”
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Nvidia’s free cash flow may rise sharply through next year.
“This is a company that this fiscal year is going to do something like $96 or $98 billion in free cash flow. Next year, it could be $360 billion in free cash flow on $680 billion in revenue.”
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Nvidia’s planned buybacks could reduce its share count by 4.3%.
“So that would theoretically reduce the shares by 4.3%.”
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Jensen Huang’s $150 billion buyback signals confidence in Nvidia.
“I think at the top would be the most important CEO in the world at the most important company in the world saying, screw slowing, let's buy back $150 billion of stock.”
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Investors should not second-guess Jensen Huang’s decisions.
“nobody— I don't think people should be second-guessing his instincts, his public statements, scrutinizing his capital allocation.”
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Investors should bet on Jensen Huang.
“It's another reason why you want to bet on Jensen.”
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The 10-year Treasury yield rose on 18 of the last 24 trading days.
“18 out of the last 24 trading days, the 10-year yield had a 1-day change that was positive.”
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After such Treasury-yield streaks, yields are lower within 12 months 80% of the time.
“When that happens 80% of the time over the next 12 months, you see yields that are lower.”
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Higher interest rates are not being driven by surging inflation expectations.
“The reason for the rise in interest rates is not coming from this expectation that inflation is gonna surge higher.”
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Treasury yields above 7% historically coincide with low equity forward P/E ratios.
“above 7% yields, the S&P 500 median forward P/E is 13.6 times. The NASDAQ 100 is 12.6 times.”
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A 3%-7% Treasury-yield range appears better for Nasdaq valuations than 0%-3%.
“It looks like 3% to 7% is a better sweet spot for the NASDAQ, at least just eyeballing it, than 0% to 3%.”
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A 5% 10-year Treasury yield is not a stock-market breaking point.
“5% is not the breaking point.”
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Corporate willingness to pay for advanced AI agents could theoretically be unlimited.
“what will corporate customers be willing to pay for that? Not just this year, but for the next 30 years. I, I don't know. It could be like, theoretically it could be unlimited.”
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Hyperscaler credit-default swaps are stable or below prior levels.
“The good thing for the debt holders is that if you look at the credit default swaps on the different bonds for these hyperscalers, they are not blowing out. They are flat. In some cases, they are actually trading below.”
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Breadth deterioration has usually resolved through broadening rather than index declines.
“in the last 10 years, it's been the opposite resolution pretty much every time to catch up.”
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Absence of new lows in tech and financials makes overall breadth weakness less concerning.
“that should make you feel a lot better about the headline number of the percent— the overall number of stocks making new lows”
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Current investor rotation away from defensive sectors is bullish.
“investors are choosing what they want right now, and that's rotation, which is bullish.”
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Uber and Lyft have declined year-to-date and over 12 months.
“Uber and Lyft look like shit. They're both down year to date. They're down over 12 months.”
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Health-tech gadget IPOs have historically not made investors money.
“I have never seen anyone make money from buying a health tech gadget IPO.”
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Fitness and wearable companies such as Peloton and Fitbit eventually lose nearly all value.
“They all go to zero, right?”
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The S&P 500 spends 61% of time at least 5% below its high.
“61% of the time, the S&P 500 is 5% or more off of its all-time highs.”
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Every historical 15-year period included an S&P 500 bear market.
“the odds of experiencing a bear market over all 15-year periods is 100%.”
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Investors historically had a 95% chance of a bear market over ten years.
“Every 10-year period, you have a 95% chance of experiencing a bear market.”
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High starting Treasury yields nearly predict comparable ten-year returns.
“If you have a high starting yield on a US Treasury, there is almost certainty— not 100%, but almost certainty— you are going to experience an actual return in the ballpark of that starting yield.”
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Stock returns historically track earnings growth.
“stocks historically follow earnings”
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S&P 500 forward earnings grew 36.7% while the index rose 17.9%.
“forward earnings have grown 36%, 36.7% year over year, and the S&P 500 is up 17.9% year over year.”
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Missing the ten best market days annually reduces historical annualized returns to -12%.
“your annualized return goes to -12% if you annualize from +8.4 to -12% just by missing the 10 best days of each year.”
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Josh Brown will not buy the XLU utilities dip.
“I will not buy this dip.”
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XLU is likely to deliver little or negative returns.
“I think at best, you have dead money. And at worst, this could get way worse.”
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Buying XLU means paying a 36% premium to utilities’ long-term P/E.
“If you buy this dip, you're basically paying a 36% premium over the historical long-term PE.”
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