The Pomp Podcast
The Pomp Podcast

Aug 22, 2026 · 59 min

Bitcoin’s rally collides with the economics of AI abundance

Bitcoin Just Had Its Biggest Week In History | Jordi Visser

The conversation links Bitcoin’s portfolio role to deflationary technology, falling valuations, medical breakthroughs, and the infrastructure race reshaping markets.

3 key takeaways
  1. 1Visser frames Bitcoin as a portfolio hedge against an increasingly abundant, deflationary economy shaped by rapid technological progress.
  2. 2AI competition could compress prices and company valuations, challenging the terminal-value assumptions behind high-growth equity markets.
  3. 3Model-routing infrastructure may broaden AI demand even as it redirects usage among OpenAI, Anthropic, and emerging competitors.

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Visser links Bitcoin’s portfolio role to AI-driven abundance, arguing that deflationary technological competition changes how investors should assess both assets and equities.

The brief

Jordi Visser argues that Bitcoin belongs in portfolios as a digital hedge against abundance, contrasting its role with gold as macro conditions propel it back into focus.

The rally leads to a broader claim: hyperspeed AI competition can push prices toward zero, compress valuation multiples, and weaken the growth assumptions supporting expensive equities.

Visser treats allocation as personal rather than universal, weighing age, spending, health, lifestyle, and risk tolerance against conservative and aggressive Bitcoin strategies.

The conversation then moves from Moderna’s AI-enabled drug development to Stripe’s reported OpenRouter acquisition and the model-routing infrastructure behind the AI startup economy.

Its sharpest tension is that AI may expand demand through Jevons Paradox while also unsettling frontier companies, public infrastructure, investors, and the beliefs formed by selective information.

What was said on this episode

31 statements · 25 positive · 5 negative · 1 neutral

  1. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive0:56

    Bitcoin should be included in portfolios as a hedge against abundance.

    “Bitcoin needs to be in people's portfolio because it is a hedge against abundance.”

    Listen at 0:56

  2. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive1:01

    Bitcoin cannot be destroyed because users believe it stores value digitally.

    “It cannot be destroyed because it is built on beliefs, beliefs that it will have a store of value, just like gold, except for one thing. It's digital.”

    Listen at 1:01

  3. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive4:07

    Bitcoin experienced an exceptionally large seven-sigma weekly move.

    “So far, this is a seven sigma week in Bitcoin.”

    Listen at 4:07

  4. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive5:30

    Bitcoin previously rallied substantially after staying above its 200-day moving average.

    “And both of those prior times, we stayed above the 200-day moving average going forward. and bitcoin started leading to a very large rally”

    Listen at 5:30

  5. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive9:27

    Bitcoin is foundational to crypto rather than a random standalone asset.

    “Bitcoin is not some thing. It's not, it's not, it's not. It's random thing. It's attached to crypto. It's where crypto was born. It's the white paper.”

    Listen at 9:27

  6. Anthropic’s growth rate will slow significantly because of competition.

    “their growth rate will slow down significantly because of competition.”

    Listen at 10:51

  7. Jordi Visseron Growth assetsNegative13:50

    No assets qualify as growth assets under Visser’s current view.

    “There are no growth assets in my viewpoint anymore.”

    Listen at 13:50

  8. AI infrastructure investments will outperform the S&P 500.

    “The AI infrastructure trade will still outperform the S&P.”

    Listen at 14:36

  9. Jordi Visseron AI companiesNegative15:43

    AI-related companies will experience valuation multiple compression over three years.

    “They will see multiple compression over the next three years”

    Listen at 15:43

  10. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive16:05

    Bitcoin will become a broad, stable-value investment resembling the future S&P 500.

    “Bitcoin becomes the S&P 500 of the future.”

    Listen at 16:05

  11. Jordi Visseron Valuation multiplesNegative18:26

    Competition-driven valuation multiple compression will continue.

    “And that's what's happening to me. And that's what's going to continue to happen.”

    Listen at 18:26

  12. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive19:01

    Bitcoin is safer than owning an individual company over a three-year horizon.

    “Bitcoin is a safer investment than a company three years from now.”

    Listen at 19:01

  13. Jordi Visseron Gold, silver, and BitcoinPositive19:50

    Gold, silver, and Bitcoin will rise together during a scarcity trade.

    “gold, silver, and Bitcoin are going up together”

    Listen at 19:50

  14. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive22:17

    Younger growth-oriented investors should favor Bitcoin as an AI, time, and abundance hedge.

    “I err on the side for the younger you are and the more you want money to work for you. Bitcoin breaks all of this stuff. It's the purest AI. trade. It's a time hedge. It's an abundance hedge. It's all of these things.”

    Listen at 22:17

  15. Jordi Visseron AI-assisted drug developmentPositive27:24

    AI should help stage-two drug candidates reach FDA approval.

    “you should be able to take things from stage two, which is where things usually die. in the IP side in terms of getting through the FDA approval. And with AI, you should be able to get that IP over the finish line.”

    Listen at 27:24

  16. Jordi Visseron PharmaceuticalsPositive28:17

    Pharmaceuticals will attract investment capital.

    “pharmaceuticals are going to be a place that money is going into.”

    Listen at 28:17

  17. Jordi Visseron AI in healthcarePositive28:19

    AI will expand across the healthcare sector.

    “I think the entire healthcare field is someplace that AI is going to go into.”

    Listen at 28:19

  18. Jordi Visseron Entrepreneurial businessesPositive33:49

    Entrepreneurial businesses will gain revenue share from Fortune 500 companies.

    “The pie of entrepreneurship is going to go up dramatically in revenues, and it's going to be taking away from the Fortune 500 companies.”

    Listen at 33:49

  19. Jordi Visseron Stripe, Inc.Positive34:30

    Stripe is positioning itself as an ecosystem company serving entrepreneurs.

    “Stripe is just an ecosystem company in the same way that almost all tech companies that have been successful”

    Listen at 34:30

  20. Jordi Visseron Anthropic and OpenAIPositive37:21

    Anthropic and OpenAI will continue growing.

    “So anthropic and open AI will keep growing.”

    Listen at 37:21

  21. Jordi Visseron Model routersPositive38:15

    Model routers will help users keep AI costs low for one or two years.

    “The routers are going to help them. They're going to keep their costs cheap for the next year or two.”

    Listen at 38:15

  22. Jordi Visseron PalantirPositive38:19

    The AI orchestration layer will become increasingly important, favoring Palantir.

    “I like companies like Palantir because I think the orchestration layer becomes much, much more important”

    Listen at 38:19

  23. Jordi Visseron Frontier AI companiesNeutral41:05

    Frontier AI companies resemble Bitcoin during its early development period.

    “They really are, in a way, very similar to where Bitcoin was in the early 2010 to 2014 period.”

    Listen at 41:05

  24. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive42:40

    Future AI-enabled attacks on fiat systems will probably benefit Bitcoin.

    “when that happens, it's probably going to be a positive for Bitcoin.”

    Listen at 42:40

  25. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive43:26

    Bitcoin may face less investment uncertainty than AI-related assets.

    “Bitcoin is coming out on the other side. maybe with less worry than everything that's related to AI that looks like a good investment.”

    Listen at 43:26

  26. Jordi Visseron Rapid technological changeNegative48:58

    Excessively rapid technological change causes harmful outcomes.

    “if we have things move too fast, bad things happen.”

    Listen at 48:58

  27. Jordi Visseron AI development frictionPositive49:07

    Some friction can improve outcomes during rapid AI development.

    “Friction to some degree when you're moving this fast actually might be a positive”

    Listen at 49:07

  28. Jordi Visseron AI developmentPositive49:28

    AI is advancing at a pace that remains more manageable.

    “I do believe that it's going at a pace which allows it to be handled more”

    Listen at 49:28

  29. People should learn through repeated failure and rebuilding.

    “it is better to learn how to fail right now. Fail, get back up, build something new.”

    Listen at 55:03

  30. Jordi Visseron BitcoinPositive56:15

    Bitcoin attention will increase this year, followed by investment next year.

    “for the rest of this year, um people will be dragged into paying attention to bitcoin and then the investments will be made next year”

    Listen at 56:15

  31. Jordi Visseron Bitcoin allocationPositive57:53

    A 20% belief in Visser’s thesis theoretically supports a 20% Bitcoin allocation.

    “if you believe there's a 20% chance that we're right, well, that means theoretically you should have somewhere near 20% of your savings in Bitcoin.”

    Listen at 57:53

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