Sep 18, 2026 · 53 min
Crypto shrugs off setbacks as regulators open a new path
ROLLUP: The Bull Market Test | Clarity Dies | SEC Opens the Door | Hyperliquid Comes Onshore
The episode tests whether crypto’s resilience signals an early bull market while regulation, tokenized markets, and on-chain trading move ahead without Congress.
- 1Crypto’s strength after a Fed rate hike and Clarity Act collapse may mark an early bull market rather than a temporary rebound.
- 2SEC and CFTC rulemaking could bring tokenized stocks, compliant venues, and round-the-clock markets forward despite congressional gridlock.
- 3Options, U.S. perps, AI tokens, and stablecoin infrastructure are competing to define crypto’s next durable growth cycle.
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The hosts argue that the Clarity Act’s failure could matter less than SEC and CFTC rulemaking that advances tokenized markets anyway.
The brief
Ryan and David read crypto’s resilience after a Fed rate hike and the Clarity Act’s collapse as evidence that an early bull market may already be forming.
Zcash and other non-blue-chip assets are outperforming, while the hosts debate whether rising bond yields reflect economic strength, AI investment, or monetary debasement.
Congress failed to deliver crypto legislation, but SEC and CFTC rulemaking could still advance tokenized stocks, compliant trading venues, and 24/7 markets.
The next market race may center on options and U.S. perpetuals, with Kraken planning a compliant front end for Hyperliquid-based trading and Robinhood-style platforms converging on-chain.
The episode closes on crypto’s broader maturation: Venice AI’s token economics, Circle’s Arc strategy, and S&P Global’s OpenZeppelin acquisition test whether usage and institutional legitimacy can translate into lasting value.
What was said on this episode
22 statements · 14 positive · 6 negative · 1 mixed · 1 neutral
Zcash is outperforming Bitcoin and capturing its market momentum
“Zcash is actually stealing Bitcoin's thunder”
Listen at 6:12
Crypto’s middle-market tokens are recovering
“we are having a middle of the market recovery”
Listen at 7:30
NIR facilitated $30 billion in confidential cross-chain transactions
“$30 billion crossed by NIR in their confidential intense”
Listen at 7:54
The 30-year Treasury yield is rising dangerously
“It's been trending up in a very dangerous way”
Listen at 11:13
Bitcoin could reach $2 million if debasement accelerates
“Bitcoin will be $2 million”
Listen at 12:12
Rising Treasury yields may primarily reflect a hot economy
“I think the real reason might just be back to the 1980s. We are in a hot economy.”
Listen at 12:52
The Federal Reserve remains independent from congressional and presidential fiscal preferences
“The Fed is legitimate. It's not bending to the fiscal policy of Congress and what the president wants. It is remaining sovereign”
Listen at 18:47
Bitcoin benefits whether interest rates rise or fall
“Bitcoin wins either way”
Listen at 20:34
Donald Trump was the biggest reason the Clarity Act failed
“Donald Trump for just making this such a big issue in the first place. Like Donald Trump is the biggest reason why Clarity Act did not pass”
Listen at 26:20
The SEC innovation exemption permits tokenized stocks on public DEXs
“This is an exemption for allowing tokenized stocks to trade on AMMs and other DEXs on public permissionless blockchains”
Listen at 28:42
Securitize shares rose approximately 30% after the exemption news
“Securitize is up like 30% today on this news”
Listen at 30:30
The market prefers permissionless tokenized economic rights over whitelisted stocks
“The market doesn't want a whitelisted tokenized stock. It wants a permissionless tokenized economic rights.”
Listen at 32:21
The exemption caps on-chain tokenized-stock volume at 0.25% daily volume
“there's going to be caps too. So for a given asset, there can't be more than 0.25% of daily volume”
Listen at 34:53
KYC-compliant onshore tokenized stocks are inferior to offshore permissionless products
“the KYC onshore compliant ones are strictly an inferior product”
Listen at 36:40
Perpetual positions can be liquidated despite correct directional views
“with a perpetual, you can be directionally right, but still get liquidated due to volatility”
Listen at 43:51
Crypto options could become a major market theme this year
“the options meta could be a theme for the rest of the year”
Listen at 45:36
Kraken will offer Hyperliquid-based perpetuals to compliant U.S. users
“Kraken is bringing perps to the onshore U.S. market via a compliant KYC-permissioned HIP3 marketplace”
Listen at 45:51
Venice AI token consumption is doubling every two months
“The chart is doubling every two months”
Listen at 47:09
Accelerating Venice token consumption would reprice VVV upward
“you would see like a repricing of VVV to account for like this accelerated growth”
Listen at 47:39
Circle should not compete in the alternative layer-one market
“I don't think they should be competing there at all. That is not their arena.”
Listen at 49:27
Arc’s speculative phase will build infrastructure for future financial workflows
“once it boils off, then we'll have all of the infrastructure for agenic economic workflows and trading and liquidity and payments and settlement and tokenized assets”
Listen at 50:26
Crypto blue-chip assets will rise if the market remains in an early bull phase
“If it's the early bull market, we stay in that band, they're going up, David.”
Listen at 52:46
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