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Macklemore, Clippers scrutiny and Cuba’s sanctions crisis collide

9/15/26: Macklemore Dropped, Pablo Torre Returns, Cuban Official Interview

The episode links disputes over political speech, alleged sports-finance misconduct and the human costs of U.S. pressure on Cuba.

3 key takeaways
  1. 1The hosts frame Macklemore’s tour removal as selective outrage that pressures performers over support for Palestine.
  2. 2Pablo Torre examines alleged financial misconduct involving the Clippers, Kawhi Leonard and undisclosed endorsement arrangements.
  3. 3Cuba’s deputy foreign minister attributes shortages and blackouts to sanctions while defending reforms and a strategy for energy stability.

Don't miss

Carlos Fernández de Cossío explains how sanctions, fuel constraints and energy shortages affect Cuban hospitals, schools and families.

The brief

The hosts open with Macklemore’s removal from Ed Sheeran’s tour after pro-Palestine remarks, arguing that selective outrage and pressure from powerful interests threaten free expression.

Pablo Torre returns to discuss reporting on alleged salary-cap circumvention involving Kawhi Leonard, the Clippers, Steve Ballmer and undisclosed endorsement arrangements tied to Aspiration’s bankruptcy.

The Cuba interview shifts the stakes from institutional scrutiny to daily survival: blackouts, fuel shortages, strained hospitals and migration are presented alongside competing accounts of responsibility.

Deputy Foreign Minister Carlos Fernández de Cossío defends Cuba’s reforms and sovereignty while describing efforts to expand private activity, diversify energy supplies and withstand secondary sanctions.

The episode’s central tension is whether pressure produces accountability or entrenches crisis, whether the subject is a performer, a sports franchise or an entire country.

What was said on this episode

26 statements · 5 positive · 17 negative · 1 mixed · 3 neutral

  1. Krystal Ballon Macklemore’s pro-Palestine statementPositive3:19

    Macklemore’s statement was not antisemitic.

    “Was not even remotely anti-Semitic.”

    Listen at 3:19

  2. Pablo Torreon Ed Sheeran tourNegative4:29

    Ed Sheeran removed Macklemore from the tour after pressure from stadium owners.

    “And Ed Sheeran... Caved to the pressure”

    Listen at 4:29

  3. Pablo Torreon Ed Sheeran’s position on MacklemoreNegative4:51

    Ed Sheeran sided with Robert Kraft by removing Macklemore.

    “He's taken a side of Robert Kraft”

    Listen at 4:51

  4. Macklemore did nothing wrong by advocating for Palestine.

    “Macklemore didn't do anything wrong.”

    Listen at 8:45

  5. Pablo Torreon Ed SheeranNegative10:04

    Ed Sheeran is losing many fans because of removing Macklemore.

    “He's losing fans by the droves.”

    Listen at 10:04

  6. Saagar Enjetion Ed Sheeran’s net worthNeutral11:08

    Ed Sheeran’s estimated net worth is £370 million, or $470 million.

    “$370 million estimated net worth. Sorry, estimated British pounds. So that's $470 million USD.”

    Listen at 11:08

  7. Pablo Torreon Macklemore’s removal from Ed Sheeran’s tourNegative11:36

    Ed Sheeran probably should not have removed Macklemore from the tour.

    “someone should be pulled from your whole tour? I mean, probably not.”

    Listen at 11:36

  8. Krystal Ballon Ed SheeranNegative11:47

    Ed Sheeran’s removal of Macklemore was cowardly.

    “Complete cowardice on the part of Sharon.”

    Listen at 11:47

  9. Ryan Grimon SEC investigation of Aspiration and DectronicsNegative18:11

    The SEC has been investigating Aspiration and Dectronics over side deals.

    “The SEC has already been probing two of the companies that he did these side deals with, Aspiration and Dectronics.”

    Listen at 18:11

  10. Krystal Ballon Los Angeles Clippers salary-cap circumventionNegative18:45

    The Clippers circumvented the salary cap through side deals benefiting Kawhi Leonard.

    “the Clippers were circumventing the salary cap for this player, Kawhi Leonard, by lining up these side deals with the companies that you mentioned before.”

    Listen at 18:45

  11. Pablo Torreon Steve Ballmer’s Aspiration investmentNeutral19:58

    Steve Ballmer invested $60 million in Aspiration.

    “He invested... $60 million, all told, into the company in his own name.”

    Listen at 19:58

  12. Pablo Torreon Kawhi Leonard’s Aspiration endorsement dealNeutral20:48

    Kawhi Leonard had an undisclosed $28 million Aspiration endorsement deal.

    “this is a $28 million endorsement deal that he never actually did anything for in public and was never announced.”

    Listen at 20:48

  13. Pablo Torreon ESPN reporting on the Clippers investigationNegative23:37

    The Clippers’ legal defense was leaked to ESPN as the NBA investigation’s findings.

    “this was, according to my reporting, the Clippers' legal defense leaked to ESPN and presented as the findings in the NBA's investigation.”

    Listen at 23:37

  14. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon Cuba electricity supplyNegative33:07

    Cuba currently provides only two to three hours of electricity daily.

    “two to three hours of electricity per day.”

    Listen at 33:07

  15. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon Cuban workers’ incomesNegative35:46

    Cuban workers’ incomes are depressed while inflation is occurring.

    “there's a mass of working people in Cuba that have depressed incomes at a moment when there's inflation.”

    Listen at 35:46

  16. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon U.S. policy toward CubaNegative37:36

    U.S. policy deliberately makes life unbearable for Cuba’s population.

    “there's a deliberate policy to make life as unbearable as possible for the population.”

    Listen at 37:36

  17. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon U.S. pressure on CubaNegative40:13

    U.S. pressure will not cause the Cuban government to collapse.

    “It's not going to make the government collapse”

    Listen at 40:13

  18. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon Cuba economic reformsPositive41:27

    Cuba is undergoing major economic reforms expanding markets and the private sector.

    “we're undergoing a very profound transformation socially and economically, more profound than any moment since the 1960s. towards greater market role, opening it expansively towards private sector.”

    Listen at 41:27

  19. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon Cuba economic reformsMixed42:21

    Cuba’s reforms have uncertain outcomes but are necessary to change current conditions.

    “What the outcome is going to be, we don't know. But we need to do something to change the current reality.”

    Listen at 42:21

  20. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon Cuba economic reformsPositive43:32

    Cuba is moving toward markets and expanding private-sector opportunities.

    “Moving towards the market. Expanding the private sector.”

    Listen at 43:32

  21. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon U.S.-Cuba relationsNegative45:24

    The U.S. has not offered a constructive, respectful relationship with Cuba.

    “There has not been an expression yet by the U.S. that they're ready to work with Cuba for a constructive and respectful relationship between two sovereign nations”

    Listen at 45:24

  22. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon U.S. intervention in CubaNegative49:51

    A U.S. attempt to pursue a Venezuela-style approach in Cuba will fail.

    “That attempt will fail.”

    Listen at 49:51

  23. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon Cuba renewable-energy strategyPositive51:28

    Cuba continues investing in solar, wind, and biogas energy.

    “But that continues. Not only with that, also with wind, also with the use of biogas.”

    Listen at 51:28

  24. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon Cuba’s threat to U.S. national securityNegative52:18

    Cuba does not plausibly threaten the United States given its military superiority.

    “can Cuba pose a threat to a nuclear power with 5,200 nuclear warheads, 11 aircraft carriers, military bases all over the world, including in our hemisphere? Is it logical?”

    Listen at 52:18

  25. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon U.S. sanctions on CubaNegative53:26

    U.S. sanctions have economically isolated Cuba like a medieval siege.

    “choked as a medieval siege on that territory.”

    Listen at 53:26

  26. Carlos Fernandez de Cosilloon U.S. humanitarian aid to CubaNegative56:26

    U.S. humanitarian aid to Cuba excludes medicine and powdered milk.

    “And they exclude medicine, and they exclude powdered milk, which are basic needs in Cuba.”

    Listen at 56:26

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