Bloomberg Surveillance
Bloomberg Surveillance

Oct 16, 2026 · 53 min

AI reshapes finance, geopolitics and the technology trade

AI Integration and Stock Fears

The episode connects AI’s practical adoption with the geopolitical, infrastructure and investment risks determining who captures its value.

3 key takeaways
  1. 1Financial firms are using AI to expand advice and access while confronting fee pressure, alternative-investment risks and changing investor expectations.
  2. 2Geopolitical competition is becoming harder to manage as drones, AI and regional conflicts increase the leverage of smaller states and nonstate groups.
  3. 3Investors debate whether AI infrastructure demand justifies technology valuations while finding value in energy, semiconductors, robotics and international markets.

Don't miss

Bob Hormats explains how drones, AI and related technologies let smaller states and nonstate groups inflict significant damage, making asymmetric warfare more consequential.

The brief

Rick Wurster describes Charles Schwab’s growth, younger clients and AI-enabled advice, while defending education and guardrails as alternative investments reach more retail investors.

Bob Hormats argues that military power cannot substitute for diplomacy as the United States faces conflicts involving the Middle East, Ukraine and China.

The episode’s sharpest technology debate pits strong AI-infrastructure demand against financing and valuation concerns, with Dan Ives highlighting Apple’s installed base as a consumer-AI advantage.

A Bloomberg Tech Minute segment shows generative AI challenging the traditional business-school case study and changing how management education approaches analysis.

Molly Pierroni makes the value case for Canadian Natural Resources, Samsung, robotics and Korean equities, emphasizing durable economics rather than low multiples alone.

What was said on this episode

28 statements · 21 positive · 5 negative · 1 mixed · 1 neutral

  1. Rick Wursteron Investment feesPositive6:40

    Lower investment fees benefit clients by returning more money to them.

    “So the fact that fees are coming down, I view, is a good thing.”

    Listen at 6:40

  2. Rick Wursteron Artificial intelligence at Charles SchwabPositive6:47

    AI is accelerating Charles Schwab’s business.

    “AI is a big accelerant to our company.”

    Listen at 6:47

  3. Rick Wursteron Private investmentsPositive9:23

    Retail investors should access private investments available to institutions.

    “I believe retail investors should have access to those very same investments.”

    Listen at 9:23

  4. Rick Wursteron Retail alternative investmentsPositive9:43

    Retail clients should consult professionals before accessing alternative investments.

    “they need to speak to a professional.”

    Listen at 9:43

  5. Rick Wursteron Texas Stock ExchangePositive12:09

    The Texas Stock Exchange will become substantially larger within five years.

    “I think it'll be a lot bigger.”

    Listen at 12:09

  6. Rick Wursteron NYSE and NasdaqPositive12:47

    The NYSE and Nasdaq will continue operating rather than disappear.

    “I don't see the NYSE or NASDAQ going away.”

    Listen at 12:47

  7. Rick Wursteron Intergenerational wealth transferNeutral13:26

    Most wealth transfers will move from very old people to older adults, not young adults.

    “The money is going to go from a 95-year-old to a 65-year-old. It's not going to the 24-year-old.”

    Listen at 13:26

  8. Rick Wursteron Defined-contribution retirement systemPositive15:05

    Defined-contribution retirement plans work for investors who benefit from them.

    “I do think that is working for the for the the investor that it's not benefiting from that.”

    Listen at 15:05

  9. Bob Hormatson U.S. State DepartmentNegative22:27

    State Department morale is currently very low.

    “I think morale in the State Department is very low.”

    Listen at 22:27

  10. Bob Hormatson Military deterrencePositive26:29

    A strong military deterrent is the best way to prevent war.

    “The best way to avoid a war is a strong military deterrent.”

    Listen at 26:29

  11. The United States should compete with China while maintaining engagement in selected areas.

    “We can compete and will compete with them and should compete with them”

    Listen at 27:29

  12. Bob Hormatson U.S.-China AI cooperationPositive28:10

    The United States should cooperate with China on shared AI risks.

    “we need to work with China just as we worked with Russia.”

    Listen at 28:10

  13. Bob Hormatson Iran WarNegative30:07

    Military pressure alone cannot resolve Iran’s broader political problem.

    “I would certainly have very tough military action, but I would not lead myself to conclude that you can solve the problem only with the military.”

    Listen at 30:07

  14. AI can enable malicious actors to cause substantial damage.

    “You have AI that can be utilized and put in the hands of malfactors, of rogues, of bad countries, bad people, which can do a lot of damage.”

    Listen at 31:54

  15. Bob Hormatson CoreWeavePositive34:46

    CoreWeave’s debt concerns are ultimately a false narrative because demand and backlog remain strong.

    “given the demand, given backlog, I think this is ultimately a false narrative as it will ultimately play out.”

    Listen at 34:46

  16. Bob Hormatson AI-related stocksPositive34:53

    Recent selloffs in AI-related stocks represent a buying opportunity.

    “it's been a buying opportunity to buy these stocks that have sold off the way they have so hard this last few days.”

    Listen at 34:53

  17. Memory-chip demand accelerated 30–40% over the prior 60–90 days.

    “memory, if I look at chips, we've seen demand accelerating at 30%, 40% over the last 60 and 90 days.”

    Listen at 35:12

  18. Bob Hormatson Technology marketPositive36:21

    The technology market will eventually reach new all-time highs.

    “I just believe this is the tech market that... Ultimately, we'll make new all-time highs”

    Listen at 36:21

  19. Five to ten percent of proposed data centers will ultimately be rejected.

    “We assume 5% to 10% of data centers will ultimately either get voted down.”

    Listen at 36:46

  20. The AI buildout will produce 800–1,000 data centers despite some rejections.

    “you're going to have 800 to 1,000 data centers out there.”

    Listen at 37:01

  21. Bob Hormatson Apple Inc.Positive37:55

    Apple will capture a toll-like role in consumer AI through its iPhone installed base.

    “with an install base of 1.5 billion iPhones, they're going to be the toll collector on the consumer AI highway.”

    Listen at 37:55

  22. Bob Hormatson Apple Inc.Positive38:10

    Apple’s stock could reach $400 in the base case or $450 in an upside case.

    “I think this is $400 base case. It could be a $450.”

    Listen at 38:10

  23. Canadian Natural Resources reduces oil-business risk through its large oil-sands reserves.

    “Canadian Natural Resources, the company we invest in, that takes a lot of the risk out of the oil business because you've got this giant oil sand.”

    Listen at 43:06

  24. Canadian Natural Resources has 30–40 years of proven oil-sands reserves ready for extraction.

    “they've got 30, 40 years of proven reserves that are right there ready to mine.”

    Listen at 43:31

  25. Bob Hormatson AI investment tradePositive45:21

    Yacktman prefers indirect exposure to the AI trade rather than conventional AI leaders.

    “We actually prefer to play the AI trade a little differently. We can own names like”

    Listen at 45:21

  26. Rick Wursteron Semiconductor foundry businessPositive46:15

    The semiconductor foundry business benefits from scale once established.

    “We actually love the foundry business because you've got, it's like a scale business once you're in it.”

    Listen at 46:15

  27. Rick Wursteron Samsung U.S. foundry expansionNegative47:03

    Skilled labor is the biggest bottleneck for Samsung’s U.S. foundry expansion.

    “The labor issue is the hardest part.”

    Listen at 47:03

  28. Rick Wursteron Korean companiesPositive48:17

    Korean companies offer lower-multiple exposure with substantially reduced valuation risk.

    “we can own them for a price where the risk in that investment. thesis is de-risk in a huge way relative to paying high multiples for effectively the same competitive companies.”

    Listen at 48:17

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