Dec 3, 2025 · 44 min
AWS bets on custom chips as AI demand reshapes the cloud
Mad Money w/ Jim Cramer 12/2/25
The episode connects market volatility and speculative weakness with the infrastructure race determining how enterprises adopt AI.
- 1AWS CEO Matt Garman outlines cloud growth, capacity constraints, custom chips, and expanding enterprise AI adoption.
- 2Cramer links Coinbase and Bitcoin while warning that speculative weakness can make premature bottom-fishing especially costly.
- 3The OpenAI leadership drama frames a broader debate over AI infrastructure, competition, and the durability of market enthusiasm.
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AWS CEO Matt Garman explains how custom chips, Anthropic’s infrastructure needs, capacity, and enterprise AI adoption could shape AWS growth.
The brief
Jim Cramer opens with the continuing OpenAI drama, then turns to Coinbase and Bitcoin as a test of how closely crypto-linked stocks track the asset itself.
AWS CEO Matt Garman describes cloud growth through legacy modernization, startup demand, data-center capacity, power availability, and autonomous AI agents.
The interview’s central tension is whether custom infrastructure can keep pace with enterprise AI adoption, as AWS discusses Trainium, NVIDIA, Anthropic, and government deployments.
Jessica Inskip joins Cramer to examine resilience beneath market volatility, including weakness in speculative stocks, AI data centers, Bitcoin, consumer staples, and the S&P 500.
The episode closes with stock calls and a warning against premature bottom-fishing, underscoring that market opinions are not individualized investment advice.
What was said on this episode
32 statements · 22 positive · 9 negative · 1 neutral
Gemini 3 may be surpassing ChatGPT in users due to speed and simplicity.
“Google's Gemini 3 might be passing open AI chat GPT in users because it's incredibly fast, no nonsense, and to the point.”
Listen at 1:45
Gemini 3 surpassing ChatGPT could severely harm OpenAI.
“If Gemini 3 can really surpass ChatGPT, that could be devastating to a company with endless financing needs”
Listen at 2:44
OpenAI resource diversion could let Meta spend less on data centers while maintaining advertising dominance.
“Meta's an advertising-based model. Zuckerberg can leak that he may not even need to spend as much on the data center build-out as he previously predicted and still dominate advertising.”
Listen at 3:41
Meta stock is a buy.
“I think it's a buy.”
Listen at 4:05
OpenAI delaying its personal assistant improves Amazon Alexa's competitive opportunity.
“OpenAI's pushback of a personal assistant gives Amazon more of a chance to get people to go with the new, more authoritative Alexa”
Listen at 4:06
Amazon will easily solidify its shopping dominance.
“It's enough to make me think that Amazon will easily solidify its shopping dominance.”
Listen at 4:19
Settling with The New York Times would give ChatGPT a decisive edge over Gemini.
“That would give it a decisive edge over Gemini”
Listen at 4:53
Google has better bond-market access than OpenAI.
“there's no doubt that Google has access to a deeper bond market than OpenAI”
Listen at 6:16
OpenAI's main crisis is its need for Microsoft to provide substantially more funding.
“The real code red at OpenAI has nothing to do with the rise of Gemini 3 and everything to do with the need to get Microsoft to take a larger stake in the business for a big chunk of change.”
Listen at 7:32
“I think Bitcoin's bouncing probably to 97 to 98,000.”
Listen at 8:37
Investors should sell Coinbase gradually as it rises.
“I think you should scale out of that thing on the way up.”
Listen at 8:42
Goldman Sachs is a better stock to own than Coinbase.
“There are other better stocks to own, like Goldman Sachs”
Listen at 8:53
AWS is hosting its annual re:Invent conference in Las Vegas.
“Amazon Web Services is hosting its annual re-invent conference in Las Vegas.”
Listen at 10:24
AWS has a $132 billion revenue run rate.
“We're a $132 billion run rate business.”
Listen at 11:34
AWS added $22 billion in revenue over the past year.
“We've grown by $22 billion over the last year.”
Listen at 13:11
AWS hosts 85% of CNBC Disruptor 50 companies.
“85% of the CNBC Disruptor 50 run on AWS.”
Listen at 15:42
AWS added 3.8 gigawatts of data-center capacity in twelve months.
“We've added 3.8 gigawatts of new data center capacity in the last 12 months alone.”
Listen at 16:55
AWS autonomous agents have produced 10x–20x delivery improvements for some teams.
“We've seen examples where teams have started to get 10x, 20x improvements in what they're able to deliver.”
Listen at 18:24
AWS frontier agents are currently unique among competitors.
“It is something that no one else offers today.”
Listen at 18:42
More than half of Bedrock inference runs on Trainium 2 instances.
“more than half of the inference on Bedrock comes on Tranium two instances.”
Listen at 22:36
Trainium is now a rapidly growing multibillion-dollar business.
“Tranium is now a multibillion dollar business and grown really rapidly.”
Listen at 23:06
Anthropic's current cloud-model generation is built on Trainium 2.
“Their whole current generation of cloud models is built on Tranium, too.”
Listen at 23:48
AWS could grow from $132 billion to $200–$400 billion.
“AWS is $132 billion business. It could be $200, $300, $400 billion.”
Listen at 27:59
A Bitcoin collapse would severely harm speculative stocks.
“If it goes into free fall, those spec names are doomed and you're going to lose money.”
Listen at 34:46
Consumer staples no longer provide reliable safety for investors.
“there's no safety anymore in the so-called safety stocks.”
Listen at 36:31
Investors should sell Akola stock.
“You need to sell the stock of Akla.”
Listen at 38:23
Investors should avoid REE Automotive stock.
“I don't want you near that one either.”
Listen at 38:29
Bitcoin could fall to $60,000 if Strategy remains troubled.
“Maybe Bitcoin goes to $60,000.”
Listen at 40:47
Boeing stock had been exceptionally weak before the latest session.
“the stock's been more toxic than the Gowanus Canal on a steaming summer's day.”
Listen at 41:21
Boeing stock is less risky after management ended forecast reductions.
“the stock is de-risked now, ahead of the January earnings release”
Listen at 41:51
Boeing stock reached a bottom after ending its negative revision cycle.
“Boeing, one of the worst stocks in this entire market, finally bottomed today.”
Listen at 43:21
Investors can still buy Boeing after short-term profit-taking subsides.
“It's not too late to buy some tomorrow after the profit-taking subsides.”
Listen at 43:28
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