Aug 29, 2026 · 1h 4m
Bitcoin’s next phase depends on scarcity, AI and tokenized finance
Bitcoin to $1 Million?! | Jordi Visser
The conversation connects Bitcoin’s market recovery to shifting monetary policy, AI-driven abundance and a possible migration from fiat assets into crypto networks.
- 1Bitcoin’s rally depends on consolidation, retail flows and macro forces rather than momentum alone.
- 2Stablecoins could handle transactions while Bitcoin provides collateral and scarcity in a tokenized financial system.
- 3NVIDIA’s growth and AI’s capital demands sharpen the debate over valuation, monetary debasement and future asset allocation.
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Visser declines to set a Bitcoin price target but predicts substantial asset transfers from the traditional fiat system into Bitcoin.
The brief
Jordi Visser and Anthony Pompliano begin with Bitcoin’s recovery, weighing resistance, support and consolidation alongside South Korean retail flows into crypto and AI markets.
The market discussion widens to interest-rate expectations, Kevin Warsh’s comments and Scott Bessent’s fiscal debate, linking debt, deficits and monetary debasement to crypto valuations.
NVIDIA’s extraordinary growth becomes a test of capital allocation: even powerful earnings can produce restrained returns when a company already commands enormous scale.
Visser frames Bitcoin and gold as scarcity assets in an AI-shaped world, while stablecoins become the transaction layer and Bitcoin serves as collateral and stored value.
Asked how high Bitcoin can go, Visser declines a precise target but predicts substantial capital will move from traditional fiat assets into Bitcoin and other networks.
The closing architecture assigns innovation and cash-flow-generating activity largely to Ethereum, Solana and related networks, while trust becomes central to tokenized finance.
What was said on this episode
33 statements · 20 positive · 9 negative · 1 mixed · 3 neutral
Crypto’s future market capitalization will reach $100 trillion.
“That number to me has to be $100 trillion in the future.”
Listen at 0:56
Bitcoin will remain the most important crypto asset.
“Bitcoin, which will stay the most important of that group”
Listen at 1:03
Bitcoin’s future price could reach approximately $800,000 to $1 million.
“It gets you up somewhere at $800,000 to a million.”
Listen at 1:23
Bitcoin faces resistance around $82,000.
“82,000 is a natural resistance point.”
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Bitcoin’s key support level is approximately $74,000.
“I think 74,000. is the support level that matters the most”
Listen at 2:24
Agent-using software will dominate the next year.
“I believe the next year is all about software that uses agents.”
Listen at 3:17
Crypto, Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana have better opportunities over twelve months.
“I view crypto and Bitcoin and Ethereum and Solana all having a better opportunity over the next 12 months”
Listen at 4:05
AI infrastructure stocks will significantly outperform the S&P over twelve months.
“I still think they'll outperform the S&P significantly over the next 12 months.”
Listen at 4:18
South Korean retail flows alone cannot sustain crypto’s upward move.
“To sustain a move, Korea itself is not going to take it higher.”
Listen at 7:44
The AI trade will not return for the next three months.
“I don't think that AI trade is coming back for the next three months”
Listen at 9:20
The largest crypto trade opportunity runs from January through August next year.
“This is why the biggest part of this trade is from January until whatever, August of next year.”
Listen at 11:42
Large-money managers will focus on crypto by year-end.
“I think by the end of this year, they will be focused.”
Listen at 12:31
Markets assign approximately a 40% chance to a September rate hike.
“you're still around 40% chance of a rate hike in September.”
Listen at 13:53
Kevin Warsh will not raise rates in September.
“I don't think Kevin Warsh is going to raise rates in September”
Listen at 16:15
Humanoids will contribute to higher future corporate taxes for debt reduction.
“I believe there will be higher corporate taxes in the future because of humanoids to help pay down the debt.”
Listen at 19:02
Stablecoins will be predominantly dollar-based.
“I happen to believe that stable coins are a reflection that they will almost all be dollar-based.”
Listen at 21:30
Stablecoins may grow to $3 trillion and purchase Treasuries.
“we need stable coins to be up to $3 trillion so they can buy treasuries as well”
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Humans will eventually be unable to compete with AI agents.
“eventually humans can't compete with them”
Listen at 27:48
Large human organizations cannot survive merely by adding AI.
“a company that is an organization with lots of people, cannot bolt on AI to survive.”
Listen at 27:51
OpenAI and Anthropic could develop a degree of monopoly over compute.
“this is a very, very unique situation that could end up with a monopoly to some degree on compute with OpenAI and Anthropic.”
Listen at 32:21
NVIDIA will not sustain its current growth rate five years from now.
“Do I think that NVIDIA five years from now that their business will be able to grow at this pace? Absolutely not.”
Listen at 40:00
NVIDIA will outperform the S&P by year-end.
“I bet by the end of the year, we will have outperformed the S&P.”
Listen at 41:24
NVIDIA will lose its current scarcity advantage within five to six years.
“at some point five years from now, six years from now, it won't have scarcity.”
Listen at 41:49
Bitcoin and gold have become the principal digital and physical stores of value.
“Bitcoin has been chosen as the digital store of value and gold has been chosen as the store of value.”
Listen at 43:56
AI-driven abundance will undermine other assets or economic structures.
“abundance is coming to destroy other things.”
Listen at 46:42
Stablecoins will serve transactions while Bitcoin serves as collateral.
“stable coins are the transaction side Bitcoin is absolutely collateral.”
Listen at 48:51
Tokenization will put assets on-chain and enable faster value transfer.
“tokenization will allow everything to go on chain and have value and be able to move at speeds”
Listen at 49:47
More investors will increase their Bitcoin holdings as agents disrupt terminal value.
“more and more people are going to increase their holdings in Bitcoin.”
Listen at 52:40
Major investor groups will move money into Bitcoin as an AI-disruption hedge.
“they will be moving money into Bitcoin as a hedge against the other side of the equation”
Listen at 52:55
The crypto market will reach $100 trillion in the future.
“that number to me has to be 100 trillion in the future.”
Listen at 53:12
Bitcoin could reach approximately $600,000 to $1 million.
“you can come up with whatever number you want it gets you up somewhere at 600 000 or somewhere 800 000 to a million”
Listen at 53:40
People will regret ignoring crypto one year from now.
“I fully believe a year from now people will look back and wish they had paid attention to crypto at this stage.”
Listen at 1:03:59
Crypto will rise rapidly if its current bottom breaks upward.
“I think if it does go, it's going to go fast”
Listen at 1:04:08
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