Oct 14, 2026 · 1h 25m
College-educated workers test Democrats’ coalition strategy
Roy Cooper and Noam Scheiber: We Gotta Rein Trump In
The episode connects professional-class economic frustration with the Democratic Party’s struggle to build a durable cross-class coalition and win competitive states.
- 1College-educated workers face debt, underemployment, and class dislocation despite promises that higher education would deliver security.
- 2Economic convergence has not erased cultural and organizational tensions between professional voters and traditional working-class constituencies.
- 3Roy Cooper pairs criticism of executive overreach with practical affordability priorities while warning that a polling lead cannot justify complacency.
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Roy Cooper explains why a polling lead in North Carolina should not inspire complacency, given the state’s unpredictable electoral history.
The brief
Noam Scheiber traces how younger workers encouraged toward college after the Great Recession encountered debt, underemployment, and economic outcomes far short of the promise.
The conversation asks why shared economic frustrations have not united professional and traditional working-class voters, highlighting tensions around student debt, labor organizing, and political language.
Scheiber and Tim Miller consider whether dissatisfied college-educated workers could fuel a new left-populist movement, or whether class identity will keep fragmenting the coalition.
Roy Cooper argues that Democrats should focus on affordability, public safety, health care, education, and democratic checks rather than abstract party reform.
Cooper’s polling lead in North Carolina becomes a warning against complacency, as he stresses the state’s unpredictability and the need to win swing races.
What was said on this episode
34 statements · 19 positive · 11 negative · 4 neutral
College degree returns stagnated and began declining after accounting for student debt.
“When they get out, the return to a college degree is suddenly stagnating and then starting to go down if you factor in all the debt that they've had to take on.”
Listen at 9:40
College graduates’ support for socialism roughly doubled during the 2010s.
“The number of college grads who say they support socialism basically doubles in the 2010s from like the low 20s to over 40 percent.”
Listen at 10:21
Most doctors are now employees of large healthcare systems.
“Most doctors are now employees.”
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Ideology is shaped by economic conditions.
“I personally think ideology is is downstream of economics.”
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College-educated voters began moving left around 2004.
“Beginning in 2004, we started to see the college-educated folks move a little bit left.”
Listen at 18:00
College-educated voters shifted sharply left in 2008.
“We see this huge lurch in 2008”
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Biden largely pursued policies desired by college-educated left voters.
“Biden in many ways is doing everything that this group of voters wants”
Listen at 23:56
College-educated and non-college voters are converging economically.
“We are seeing a real convergence on economics.”
Listen at 28:44
About 70% of Americans supported striking UAW workers over companies in 2023.
“if you looked at, say, support for UAW, striking UAW workers, it was about 70 percent of Americans supported the workers over the companies.”
Listen at 29:35
Biden’s union requirements for green energy reduced efficiency and slowed deployment.
“that makes it less efficient. It slows it down.”
Listen at 35:10
Housing is currently less attainable than ever for an American generation.
“Housing has never been more unattainable to any generation of Americans, you know, since we started doing, you know, the kind of modern mortgage market than it is today.”
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Left-populist Democratic primary conflicts will expand before 2028.
“I expect this year's. you know, sometimes divisive primaries, you know, particularly in Michigan, I suspect that we're going to see that play out on like a much bigger scale in the run up to 20, 20”
Listen at 49:31
Mamdani will influence Democratic politics in 2028 and 2032.
“I expect him, you know, to be a, you know, a player in this 2028, 2032 conversation.”
Listen at 51:42
Trump should remove tariffs that are increasing costs.
“what he ought to be doing is removing these chaotic tariffs that are costing people.”
Listen at 54:27
Buying Russian diesel gives Russia more money for attacks on Ukraine.
“this not only relieves that pressure, but gives them more money to drop more bombs on Ukraine.”
Listen at 56:47
A Democratic congressional majority should restore checks on executive power.
“if we are able to take back the Senate and the House is to bring back those checks and balances”
Listen at 57:01
Congress should restore healthcare subsidies and provide a child tax credit.
“we need to pass legislation that restores. funding for health care subsidies that provides for child tax credit”
Listen at 59:50
The current administration has worsened affordability rather than reducing costs.
“this president and the administration has not. made things less expensive. They've made it so much worse.”
Listen at 1:00:20
Public officeholders should not use office for personal enrichment.
“you shouldn't be elected to office in order to make a buck.”
Listen at 1:01:15
The filibuster currently helps protect voting rights across states.
“what the filibuster is doing is helping to protect voting in states across the country.”
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American democracy is currently under threat.
“our democracy certainly is being threatened right now.”
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North Carolina Republican support tends to exceed polling by five or six points.
“you can pretty much add five or six percentage points to whatever Republicans are doing in the polls in North Carolina.”
Listen at 1:10:37
Democrats should emphasize basic concerns such as safety and education.
“sticking to the basics is important because most people want to live in a safe community.”
Listen at 1:13:59
Cooper’s administration helped create 640,000 better-paying jobs.
“We helped create 640,000 new better paying jobs”
Listen at 1:15:13
Democrats should prioritize winning swing races over fixing party structure.
“not worry about fixing the Democratic Party.”
Listen at 1:16:40
The United States needs a strong and secure border.
“we need a strong, secure border”
Listen at 1:18:57
The United States should deport violent criminals.
“we need to deport violent criminals”
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ICE officers should follow local law-enforcement rules and training standards.
“ICE officers should have to obey by the same rules and have the same training that local and state law enforcement have.”
Listen at 1:19:33
Immigration detainees should receive fair hearings on their legal status.
“we also need to have a system where they can have a fair hearing about. their legal status in the United States.”
Listen at 1:20:37
College sports are becoming more professionalized.
“College sports are moving toward the professional level.”
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College athletes should have been paid previously.
“players should have been paid.”
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College sports should impose limits on the transfer portal.
“we now have to find a way to clamp down on the transfer portal”
Listen at 1:22:11
The Tar Heels may have a successful season this year.
“I'm going to bet that the Tar Heels might have a pretty good year this year.”
Listen at 1:22:21
The Charlotte Hornets have the core of a good team.
“But I think they've got the core of... good team.”
Listen at 1:23:43
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