Sep 23, 2026 · 1h 33m
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Foreign policy becomes a cost-of-living fight
Xi’s Just Not That Into You
The episode connects Washington’s global choices to voters’ household finances, military accountability, democratic trust, and the risks of unregulated AI.
- 1Trump’s approach to China, Iran, and the UN exposes shrinking American leverage and an increasingly transactional foreign policy.
- 2AI already creates national-security vulnerabilities through cyber risks, autonomous agents, resource demands, and weak regulation.
- 3Polling shows voters increasingly judge foreign policy by economic consequences, military accountability, corruption, and investment at home.
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Mahir Bhattar explains how voters connect wars and tariffs directly to gas prices and broader cost-of-living pressures.
The brief
Tommy Vietor and Ben Rhodes open with an FBI hack before previewing a subdued UN General Assembly, where China, AI, Iran, and the UN’s declining influence dominate.
The hosts argue that Trump’s meeting with Xi Jinping shows limited U.S. leverage, while his Iran threats and Houthi policy reveal an unstable mix of escalation and electoral calculation.
AI enters as an immediate security problem rather than a distant existential scenario: cyber vulnerabilities, uncontrolled agents, resource demands, and absent regulation already create exposure.
The conversation widens to Russia’s elections, Ukrainian strikes, Germany’s AfD, and Trump’s proposed triumphal arch as signs of democratic strain and authoritarian symbolism.
Mahir Bhattar’s polling reframes foreign policy as economic policy, finding voters connect wars and tariffs to living costs while supporting military accountability and responsible use of leverage.
The episode’s central takeaway is a voter roadmap: protect household finances, invest at home, constrain war-making, and confront corruption with credible oversight.
What was said on this episode
21 statements · 4 positive · 15 negative · 2 neutral
Early DOGE actions dismantled some U.S. government cyber defenses.
“my hazy recollection of the early Doge days was them dismantling some of the cyber defenses of the U.S. government”
Listen at 1:38
Without current policy failures, the summit would focus primarily on artificial intelligence.
“this would probably be entirely a summit about artificial intelligence with some secondary issues in geopolitics and the economy”
Listen at 10:22
Trump is unlikely to persuade China to stop buying most Iranian oil.
“it seems very unlikely that Trump will be able to talk to Chinese. out of buying, what is it, 80% to 90% of Iran's oil”
Listen at 11:05
China has near-monopoly control of rare earth elements.
“China has a near monopoly on them”
Listen at 11:37
Xi will probably offer little help on oil markets, which Trump may exaggerate.
“My sense is he'll probably do very little, but maybe a little bit that Trump tries to spin as bigger than it is.”
Listen at 14:20
AI can be used to build biological pathogens and weapons.
“the risk that you can use AI to build biological pathogens, create biological weapons”
Listen at 19:44
AI is increasingly making autonomous decisions to kill people.
“AI making totally autonomous decisions to kill people, which is something that I think is happening with an alarming degree of frequency these days”
Listen at 20:17
The United States and China must negotiate AI guardrails.
“we fucking have to negotiate on this”
Listen at 21:38
The United Nations remains useful for convening and dialogue.
“It's still a convening force. It's still a place where people can have dialogue on all these issues. So it still matters.”
Listen at 30:14
Netanyahu’s attacks on Mamdani are harming Israel in the United States.
“this is harming you here in the US”
Listen at 33:22
Netanyahu’s video will benefit Zohran Mamdani politically.
“I guarantee you that that kind of video just redounds to Zohar Mamdani's benefit”
Listen at 34:42
The United Nations should restore greater emphasis on climate issues.
“It might be time to bring that back a bit”
Listen at 37:04
Military force cannot resolve the Houthi and Iranian conflicts.
“There's not a military solution to these problems”
Listen at 43:50
Russian gray-zone actions in Europe could increasingly become military attacks.
“this could become increasingly, you know, kinetic”
Listen at 51:49
A massive Ukrainian drone bombardment of Moscow is probably not appropriate.
“I'm not sure like a massive drone bombardment of Moscow is like... you know, the right approach.”
Listen at 53:52
Germany’s AfD is gaining while the CDU is collapsing electorally.
“the AfD is doing well and the CDU is collapsing”
Listen at 55:42
Russia could escalate its war into Europe.
“Russia could escalate into Europe”
Listen at 56:46
Storing explosives in Trump’s proposed arch creates a serious security risk.
“filling a gigantic landmark. that is unobstructed from all directions with a massive amount of explosives that could detonate on some charge is probably not a good idea”
Listen at 59:09
Trump’s proposed arch should never be built or should be demolished immediately.
“This arch. I hope, just never gets constructed. Or if it does, I would rip it down fucking immediately”
Listen at 1:01:14
The proposed arch symbolizes authoritarianism and risks aircraft safety.
“It's a monument to authoritarianism. It's a potential risk to flights”
Listen at 1:01:24
AI will become a potent issue in the 2028 election.
“I do think it's going to be also a very potent issue in the 2028 election.”
Listen at 1:17:46
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