Sep 17, 2026 · 1h 42m
Holdout juror faces scrutiny as helicopter crash raises safety questions
Holdout Juror on Kevin Reddington, the Macklemore-Robert Kraft Controversy, and Helicopter Crash Details, with Emily Jashinsky, Ray Marcel, and Alan C. Mack | Ep. 1400
The episode pairs an account of a contested jury dissent and alleged public targeting with a technical examination of a fatal helicopter crash.
- 1Ray Marcel describes how he authenticated contact with the Lindsay Clancy trial’s holdout juror and investigated claims about his treatment.
- 2Emily Jashinsky joins Megyn Kelly to debate Macklemore’s advocacy, Sunny Hostin’s AI adaptation, Sydney Sweeney’s ad, and Tom Cruise’s cover.
- 3Aviation expert Alan C. Mack explains how engine failure, autorotation, altitude, and obstacles may have constrained the helicopter crew’s options.
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Alan C. Mack explains how an engine failure could force a helicopter into autorotation with only seconds to manage altitude, rotor RPM, and obstacles.
The brief
Ray Marcel discusses how he located and authenticated contact with the Lindsay Clancy trial’s holdout juror, whose dissent reportedly drew pressure and public criticism.
The interview examines allegations about the juror’s questionnaire, family connections, and deliberation conduct while distinguishing what Marcel says he could verify from what remained unresolved.
Emily Jashinsky joins Megyn Kelly for disputes over Macklemore’s pro-Palestinian advocacy, Sunny Hostin’s AI romance adaptation, Sydney Sweeney’s sports-betting ad, and Tom Cruise’s GQ cover.
Aviation expert Alan C. Mack says a possible engine failure would have left a single-engine helicopter little time to enter autorotation and choose a landing path.
Mack and Kelly consider altitude, rotor RPM, emergency vehicles, and nearby obstacles while stressing that the National Transportation Safety Board investigation remains unresolved.
What was said on this episode
19 statements · 4 positive · 13 negative · 1 mixed · 1 neutral
Ray Marcel assessed Michael as a good person with no significant background record.
“He sounds like he's just a good guy. trying to make it by in life. I mean, you go to his background. I looked up his background. he doesn't have any.”
Listen at 26:11
Ray Marcel judged the reporting about Michael as a major deception.
“I learned how to read in between the lines. I know when somebody's conning me. And when I saw this, this was a big con.”
Listen at 27:45
Emily Jashinsky said available information indicates Michael was not dishonest on the juror form.
“Everything now points to that not being the fact. And so I'm curious, did they bother to check with him, with the juror, about whether there was another side of the story that could kill?”
Listen at 32:14
Emily Jashinsky said Macklemore's cancellation elevated him into a sympathetic public figure.
“he has now become uncanceled. with a huge swath of the population who is rushing to his defense.”
Listen at 43:50
Emily Jashinsky said supporters of Israel could still view Macklemore's cancellation as a mistake.
“you can be very supportive of Israel and think that this was a massive mistake because Macklemore has now been elevated to here. status”
Listen at 44:14
Emily Jashinsky concluded that conflating Israel criticism with antisemitism created Macklemore's martyr status.
“I think that's exactly what happened here.”
Listen at 44:55
Emily Jashinsky characterized Robert Kraft as imposing his worldview through billionaire power.
“what you see is somebody who very firmly believes that his view of the world should be imposed via billionaires with all this control of money”
Listen at 58:35
Emily Jashinsky judged Sunny Hostin's books likely mediocre rather than victims of racial exclusion.
“what is almost certainly her mediocre work is not being turned into racism”
Listen at 1:05:11
Emily Jashinsky said poor writing explains why Sunny Hostin's books were not adapted.
“it's terrible writing. And Sonny Hostin should know this is why it's not being made into a fucking movie.”
Listen at 1:12:28
Emily Jashinsky said Sydney Sweeney's ad may encourage vulnerable men to become addicted to sports betting.
“if anything they should be upset about sydney sweeney exploiting her body and her fame to help get poor men uh many like economically disadvantaged and desperate men men across the income spectrum, but particularly economically disadvantaged and desperate men addicted to a sports betting app.”
Listen at 1:18:22
Emily Jashinsky said sports betting can undermine sports integrity.
“sports betting has the potential to corrupt the integrity of the game.”
Listen at 1:22:12
Emily Jashinsky judged Tom Cruise's sexualized GQ cover undignified and unnecessary.
“It just, it is unnecessary. I think it's undignified.”
Listen at 1:25:17
Alan Mack assessed the helicopter as suffering engine failure with one landing opportunity after power loss.
“they had some type of engine failure. And, you know, it's a single engine aircraft. So you lose that, you have... Essentially, think of Sully on the Hudson, right? You've got one chance to land that thing if you can't restart the engine.”
Listen at 1:34:14
Alan Mack said helicopter safety depends on height and airspeed falling within a survivable envelope.
“there's what we call the height-velocity diagram, otherwise known as the dead man's curve”
Listen at 1:35:52
Alan Mack said rapid descent can restore rotor RPM during helicopter autorotation.
“You descend quickly in what's called the autorotational aerodynamic phase, which the air blows up through the rotor, spins it, keeps it within the operating RPM.”
Listen at 1:36:50
Alan Mack said a pilot has only one opportunity to execute a successful autorotational landing.
“you get one shot at that.”
Listen at 1:37:12
Alan Mack estimated the helicopter flew 500–800 feet, near the edge of its safe flight envelope.
“they're probably between 500 and 800 feet, which is right at the edge of that aircraft's height-velocity diagram.”
Listen at 1:38:12
Alan Mack said engine loss rapidly reduces rotor speed and leaves little response time.
“you lose the engine. It drags down very, very fast. And you don't have a lot of time.”
Listen at 1:39:34
Alan Mack said pilots need diagnostic time, which prevented reaching the nearby airfields.
“you have to have time to diagnose the problem. And once they did, nobody could make those airfields.”
Listen at 1:40:44
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