Saxo Market Call
Saxo Market Call

Oct 8, 2026 · 26 min

Markets strain as European spreads widen and commodities diverge

Markets on tilt: when will we see a proper slide lower?

The episode connects European fiscal and geopolitical pressure with fragile energy supplies and unusual moves across oil, sugar, gold, and silver.

3 key takeaways
  1. 1European weakness and widening French-German spreads are intensifying an already negative risk backdrop.
  2. 2Oil prices face supply pressure from refinery constraints, reduced Iranian flows, and geopolitical risk around the Strait of Hormuz.
  3. 3Gold and silver are weakening as yields and the dollar rise, even while gold ETF holdings move higher.

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The brief

John Hardy opens on a deteriorating risk mood: European markets are weakening, French-German yield spreads are widening, and higher oil prices are adding pressure.

Ole Hansen argues that U.S. oil constraints center on refinery capacity rather than crude inventories, while reduced Iranian flows and geopolitical risk support prices.

European gas stocks cover only part of winter demand, leaving Europe and Asia competing for U.S. LNG cargoes if Middle Eastern flows are disrupted.

Sugar has rallied from roughly 15 to above 21 cents as a stronger Brazilian real reduces export profitability after speculative positions were corrected.

The sharpest market puzzle is precious-metals divergence: gold pulls back as yields and the dollar rise, yet gold ETF holdings increase while silver falls further.

The episode returns to European spreads, seasonal gas risk, geopolitical news, and the Strait of Hormuz as the pressures most likely to shape the outlook.

What was said on this episode

23 statements · 4 positive · 18 negative · 1 mixed

  1. Ole Hansenon U.S. refinery capacityNegative2:07

    U.S. fuel constraints stem from refinery capacity, not crude inventories.

    “U.S. crude stocks inventories are actually more or less in line with the five-year average if we look at the weekly data coming from the DOE. So it's not crude that the U.S. is missing right now. But just like everywhere else, it's the refinery capacity to produce all the fuel that is needed right now.”

    Listen at 2:07

  2. Ole Hansenon Iranian oil exportsNegative3:29

    Iran is currently exporting no oil barrels.

    “Iran sending no barrels out at all.”

    Listen at 3:29

  3. Ole Hansenon Strait of Hormuz reopeningNegative4:53

    Full reopening of the Strait of Hormuz appears unlikely soon.

    “the prospect for that looks pretty slim.”

    Listen at 4:53

  4. Ole Hansenon France diesel releaseNegative6:21

    France’s diesel release covers only a few days of global supply shortfall.

    “10 million barrels from a global perspective, when we are missing, what, 1.5, 1.6 million barrels on a daily basis, you can quickly add up how many or how few days of supply that actually is.”

    Listen at 6:21

  5. Ole Hansenon European natural gas pricesNegative6:50

    European natural gas prices could reach €100 per megawatt-hour this winter.

    “There are risks that we could hit 100 into the winter.”

    Listen at 6:50

  6. Ole Hansenon European natural gas stockpilesNegative7:01

    European gas stockpiles cover only 25–30% of average winter demand.

    “whatever's in stockpiles, in an average year, what's in stockpiles as we head into the winter really only accounts for around 25 to 30 percent of total. demand during the winter period.”

    Listen at 7:01

  7. Ole Hansenon Asian winter LNG demandNegative7:26

    A cold Asian winter would increase competition for LNG and raise costs.

    “if we do get a cold winter in Asia, then we have to compete for these LNG ships and that will drive up costs.”

    Listen at 7:26

  8. Ole Hansenon European natural gas pricesNegative7:36

    European natural gas prices remain at risk of rising in coming months.

    “the risk of higher prices is still a risk in the coming months.”

    Listen at 7:36

  9. Ole Hansenon U.S. LNG export capacityPositive8:18

    U.S. LNG export capacity will likely be fully utilized this winter.

    “whatever export capacity the U.S. has is probably going to be used fully utilized during the winter months just to capture these massive margins”

    Listen at 8:18

  10. Ole Hansenon Brazilian sugar exportsNegative9:28

    A stronger Brazilian real can reduce sugar supply reaching the market.

    “that could lead to some stockpiling or less supply coming to the market so that also helped drive up”

    Listen at 9:28

  11. Ole Hansenon sugarMixed9:51

    Sugar may be the commodity most affected by an elevated El Niño.

    “sugar is potentially the biggest commodity that could see the biggest impact from a very... elevated LDNU.”

    Listen at 9:51

  12. Ole Hansenon GoldPositive12:11

    Gold is currently supported by safe-haven demand.

    “this is a – a haven story that underpins gold.”

    Listen at 12:11

  13. Ole Hansenon GoldPositive12:26

    Some investors are buying gold despite rising yields because they anticipate future risks.

    “there are investors out there who are actually taking the rising yields as an opportunity to buy gold because they see it as a potential risk down the line.”

    Listen at 12:26

  14. John Hardyon Samsung and TSMCNegative14:09

    Samsung and TSMC results are negative signals for AI hardware.

    “These are two critical companies for the whole AI hardware space. Not a good look here.”

    Listen at 14:09

  15. John Hardyon Russell 2000Negative14:36

    The Russell 2000 is nearing a 10% correction after falling 9%.

    “The Russell 2000, and this is kind of interesting, down minus 1.3%. It's now in a 9%, almost getting to a properly defined 10% correction status with that 9% drop”

    Listen at 14:36

  16. John Hardyon SpaceX financingNegative16:34

    SpaceX’s proposed $40 billion borrowing appears unserious.

    “It just seems non-serious.”

    Listen at 16:34

  17. John Hardyon Jane Street and CitadelNegative17:54

    Highly leveraged hedge funds such as Jane Street and Citadel could become systemic actors.

    “the leverage is 20, 25 times of some hedge fund or some, what do they call these big shops like Jane Street and Citadel, et cetera. Suddenly they're the systemic actor because they've gotten so large.”

    Listen at 17:54

  18. John Hardyon Goldman SachsNegative18:53

    Goldman Sachs shares are down 23% from their July all-time high.

    “It's off 23% from its all-time high just back in July when it traded to 11.54. It closed yesterday at 887.”

    Listen at 18:53

  19. John Hardyon Morgan StanleyNegative19:03

    Morgan Stanley shares are down 18%.

    “Morgan Stanley is down 18%.”

    Listen at 19:03

  20. John Hardyon U.S. Treasury yieldsPositive21:06

    Lower Treasury yields are needed to reduce risk to overall market sentiment.

    “We need to see these yields to stay down to avoid this particular source of risk into the general risk sentiment picture.”

    Listen at 21:06

  21. John Hardyon SpainNegative23:44

    Spain appears likely to move toward right-populist politics.

    “it does look like Spain will be one of the first or the next, I guess you could argue, to join the sort of right populist direction.”

    Listen at 23:44

  22. John Hardyon Vox–Partido Popular allianceNegative24:33

    A Vox–Partido Popular alliance would produce a right-leaning Spanish government.

    “that would make for a right-leaning government”

    Listen at 24:33

  23. John Hardyon Global marketsNegative25:06

    Current market concern levels are very high.

    “Concern levels very high here.”

    Listen at 25:06

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