The Oprah Podcast
The Oprah Podcast

Nov 10, 2026 · 44 min

Mary Lawson finds solace in connection and care

Mary Lawson: “Solace in Winter” | Oprah’s Book Club

The conversation shows how grief, estrangement, and wartime trauma can become a story about recovering purpose through responsibility to others.

3 key takeaways
  1. 1Lawson’s novel links Jack’s grief to his need to protect people and animals who depend on him.
  2. 2Chris’s draft resistance and Sally’s anger expose how war and absent fathers fracture families across generations.
  3. 3Lawson’s character-driven process leaves the story open to a possible return to Jack, Chris, Ellie, Patrick, and Lola.

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Lawson reveals that Jack’s attachment to Chris grows from his wartime failure to save an injured boy and his resolve not to abandon him.

The brief

Oprah and Mary Lawson discuss Solace in Winter, a northern Ontario story where an isolated older man, an injured dog, and a draft-dodging American form an accidental family.

Lawson explains how publishing her first novel at 55 freed her to develop relationships and personalities that short fiction could not contain.

The Vietnam-era draft gives Chris a painful rupture with home, while Sally’s anger reveals the lasting damage of an absent father’s choices.

Lawson traces Jack’s solace to a wartime failure to save an injured boy, a trauma that drives his determination not to abandon Chris.

The conversation closes on the novel’s open ending and Lawson’s willingness to revisit its characters if another story emerges naturally.

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