Republican senators confront the consequences of enabling Trump

Jonathan V. Last: How Much Stupid Can We Possibly Take?

The discussion tests whether Republican criticism can matter after lawmakers have helped install and sustain an administration they now question.

3 key takeaways

1Republican senators criticize nominees and policies while struggling to escape responsibility for enabling the administration.
2The Venezuela oil arrangement and Alejandro’s backchannel role raise questions about legality, danger, and opaque political influence.
3Warnings about Trump failed to persuade many voters, leaving Democrats to confront the possibility of another Republican victory in 2029.

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Jonathan V. Last imagines what another Republican victory in 2029 would mean after Trump’s second term.

The brief

Jonathan V. Last joins Tim Miller to examine a recurring Republican pattern: senators criticize Trump’s nominees and policies after helping make them possible.

The hosts argue that Susan Collins’s claims of influence reveal the limits of Republican moderation when lawmakers retain little leverage over the administration.

Last traces the administration’s Venezuelan oil arrangement and Alejandro’s backchannel role, presenting the deal as both apparently illegal and politically dangerous.

Discussion of JD Vance’s religious rhetoric and Springfield’s Haitian residents broadens the case against political hypocrisy, especially when concern produces no meaningful action.

The standout turn is Last’s dark 2029 scenario: another Republican victory after Trump’s second term, suggesting voters may not have misunderstood the warnings at all.

A mailbag on persuasion closes the argument’s loop: people often rationalize what they already want, making public shaming and factual correction unreliable tools.

What was said on this episode

18 statements · 5 positive · 10 negative · 3 neutral

Jonathan V. Laston Talarico's Texas Senate racePositive6:35
Talarico has roughly a one-in-three chance of winning the Texas Senate seat.
“there's a chance, right? Even if it's a 1 in 3 chance.”
Listen at 6:35
Jonathan V. Laston Pete HegsethNegative17:01
Pete Hegseth is already undermining America's prospects in its next war.
“he's already working hard to lose America's next war.”
Listen at 17:01
Jonathan V. Laston Venezuelan oil dealNegative19:44
The Venezuelan oil deal is illegal under applicable law.
“The oil deal is illegal”
Listen at 19:44
Jonathan V. Laston Venezuelan oil arrangementNegative20:41
The Venezuelan oil arrangement cannot continue indefinitely.
“it can't possibly last.”
Listen at 20:41
Jonathan V. Laston Alejandro Betancourt LopezNeutral22:37
Alejandro Betancourt Lopez received approximately $2 billion for power-generation projects at age 29.
“he's like 29 years old and he's being given $2 billion”
Listen at 22:37
Jonathan V. Laston Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche's interventionNegative26:23
Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche sought to have Switzerland drop Alejandro's extradition request.
“Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche start talking to the Swiss saying, hey guys, you got to drop this extradition request”
Listen at 26:23
Jonathan V. Laston Catholic usage of “end times”Neutral32:55
Catholics generally do not use the phrase “end times.”
“I have never in my life heard a Catholic use the phrase end times.”
Listen at 32:55
Jonathan V. Laston Catholic certainty about salvationNegative34:31
Catholics should express minimal certainty that they will go to heaven.
“every Catholic's answer to that question should be one”
Listen at 34:31
Jonathan V. Laston Bundy Ranch government responsePositive42:15
The government's restraint at Bundy Ranch was probably beneficial because it avoided a massacre.
“I think probably good they didn't massacre, you know, 200 people.”
Listen at 42:15
Jonathan V. Laston Following scientific expertsPositive48:38
People lacking relevant scientific knowledge should follow more knowledgeable experts.
“you should just listen to the people who are smarter than you.”
Listen at 48:38
Jonathan V. Laston Communicating technical expertisePositive51:24
Mechanics should be able to plainly tell uninformed customers they are wrong.
“we should just be able to say that.”
Listen at 51:24
Jonathan V. Laston 2029 U.S. presidential outcomePositive53:13
People around Last assume there will be a Democratic president in 2029 with roughly 90% probability.
“there seems to be a working assumption that there will be a Democratic president in 2029. Like, just a, you know, like a 90%.”
Listen at 53:13
Jonathan V. Laston Post-Trump Republican presidential victoryNeutral53:48
A Republican could be elected president again after Trump's second term.
“if a Republican gets elected again after Trump 2”
Listen at 53:48
Jonathan V. Laston Another Republican presidential victoryNegative55:33
Another Republican victory would leave little justification for excusing voters' choices.
“If a Republican wins again, like, what alibi is there left? I think maybe there isn't any.”
Listen at 55:33
Jonathan V. Laston Political belief formationNegative1:03:09
People often choose desired outcomes first and construct rationalizations afterward.
“people are just— they want what they want and they backfill everything else from there.”
Listen at 1:03:09
Jonathan V. Laston Pete HegsethNegative1:08:22
Pete Hegseth is the most damaging member of Trump's cabinet.
“I genuinely think that Hegseth is the most damaging member of the cabinet.”
Listen at 1:08:22
Jonathan V. Laston Robert Kennedy Jr.Negative1:08:55
Trump could replace Pete Hegseth more easily than RFK Jr.
“You can't find another RFK”
Listen at 1:08:55
Jonathan V. Laston High-speed baseball pitchesNegative1:11:36
People unable to protect themselves should not face pitches faster than roughly 75 mph.
“if you can't protect yourself, you shouldn't really see anything over like 75 miles an hour.”
Listen at 1:11:36

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