Nov 10, 2026 · 1h 13m
Trump faces pressure to govern beyond partisan warfare
What Will Trump do Next?
The episode connects Trump’s post-election choices to immigration, energy costs, foreign policy, Democratic infighting, and public trust in artificial intelligence.
- 1Trump’s possible immigration deal tests whether he can revive dealmaker politics without alienating conservatives.
- 2The Iran war and energy bottlenecks expose how foreign policy can become an affordability problem for voters.
- 3Democratic factional conflict and AI’s public-trust deficit could shape the next governing agenda.
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Janet Kelly makes the case that AI must become personally useful to ordinary Americans before its broader economic promise can earn public trust.
The brief
The hosts ask how Donald Trump should govern after a Republican midterm defeat, weighing whether a large Democratic majority would force him toward bipartisan dealmaking.
Immigration becomes the clearest test: Trump’s openness to working with Democrats collides with conservative resistance to anything resembling amnesty and with J.D. Vance’s ambitions.
The discussion links the Iran war, gas prices, permitting, and refining capacity to the affordability concerns that shaped voters’ judgments of the administration.
The hosts then turn to Democratic infighting, contrasting Hakeem Jeffries and red-district Democrats with the Democratic Socialists of America’s progressive demands.
Janet Kelly argues that AI will drive the economy for generations, but companies must show ordinary Americans tangible benefits while addressing jobs, security, energy, and online safety.
The episode’s larger question is whether either party can convert sweeping political and technological change into practical gains voters can recognize in daily life.
What was said on this episode
41 statements · 15 positive · 15 negative · 3 mixed · 8 neutral
Trump will again take flexible positions on some policy issues.
“People, I think, are going to get reacquainted with some of Trump's flexibility on some of these issues”
Listen at 0:14
Trump may again compromise on issues contrary to conservative preferences.
“people I think are going to get reacquainted with some of Trump's flexibility on some of these issues.”
Listen at 8:16
Journalists are mischaracterizing Trump’s post-election statements.
“I do think that there are an awful lot of journos out there overriding what he is saying in the aftermath of an election.”
Listen at 9:14
Trump seeks to demonstrate that he personally controls dealmaking.
“he likes to establish the fact that he is in charge.”
Listen at 10:47
Trump’s future actions are difficult to predict.
“you never know what he's going to do.”
Listen at 11:04
Immigration was the only issue with a Republican advantage in importance polling.
“it was the only issue where there was a Republican advantage in terms of issues of importance.”
Listen at 12:37
Conservatives are not blaming the election loss on insufficient amnesty.
“There's nobody in the conservative universe that's like, the reason we lost this election is that we didn't have more amnesty.”
Listen at 14:08
Social Security and Medicare will become insolvent by 2032 without changes.
“we all recognize in 2032, Social Security, Medicare are going bankrupt.”
Listen at 16:25
The Trump administration has reduced border crossings to zero.
“We have a zero border crossing situation. Zero. Like this president solved that issue”
Listen at 17:11
Republicans do not want an amnesty bill.
“no Republican wants amnesty.”
Listen at 18:12
Democrats will set and advance an agenda with their congressional majorities.
“the Democrats are going to set an agenda and they're going to move stuff and they've got huge majorities where they can start moving stuff.”
Listen at 19:49
Increasing energy supply lowers prices.
“if you have more supply, the price comes down.”
Listen at 23:36
Democrats will probably oppose permitting reform.
“they probably will oppose it.”
Listen at 23:51
Permitting reform could have improved affordability last year.
“the affordability battle could have been won last year if we had just done it”
Listen at 27:41
Trump will not say the Iran strikes were not worth their cost.
“the president's not going to say the price wasn't worth it to go take out the nuclear reactors.”
Listen at 28:28
Trump’s view of the Iran strikes will become a litmus test for candidates.
“this is going to be a litmus in the same way that 2016 Trump made the litmus that going into Iraq was wrong.”
Listen at 28:44
J.D. Vance’s prospective campaign depends on Iran and Trump’s endorsement.
“The entire rubric of his campaign is built upon the issue of Iran and President Trump's endorsement.”
Listen at 29:50
J.D. Vance’s Iran position and Trump endorsement may be incompatible.
“they might be, because of what you just said, a mutually exclusive thing.”
Listen at 30:00
Trump’s perceived authenticity explains much of his connection with voters.
“there's a level of authenticity. I think that's the connection that so many people have had with this president.”
Listen at 32:19
Trump will not change his opinion about the Iran decision.
“he's never going to change his opinion and mind”
Listen at 32:45
The DSA and Squad are politically irrelevant within the large majority.
“The DSA is, the squad is irrelevant.”
Listen at 40:37
More than 40 Democrats won districts carried by Trump in 2024.
“There are 40 some Democrats who won races in districts that Trump won in 2024.”
Listen at 41:07
Red-district Democrats must prioritize their constituents over the Squad’s agenda.
“They have to represent their red district and not what the squad in New York wants done.”
Listen at 41:27
Moderate Democrats will become as extreme as DSA radicals after gaining power.
“the second they're going to get power, they'll be just as crazy as the DSA radicals.”
Listen at 45:09
Media attention will reinforce Democrats’ provocative behavior.
“it just positively reinforces bad behavior.”
Listen at 46:33
Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer will not restrain progressive Democrats.
“If anyone thinks Hakeem Jeffries or Chuck Schumer is reigning that in, you're insane.”
Listen at 46:57
Media reinforcement will cause Democrats to overreach, harming Americans.
“that reinforcement will lead to them overreaching and the American people will be no better for it.”
Listen at 47:45
AI-related voter anxiety will persist into the next election without policy correction.
“That undercurrent of AI that was definitely present in 2026. is going to be present in the next cycle if we don't course correct.”
Listen at 53:07
Ninety-one percent of American voters want AI safeguards.
“American voters, 91% of them are saying we want safeguards.”
Listen at 53:53
Sixty-seven percent accept losing to China rather than lacking AI safeguards.
“67% of them are saying, I'll lose to China if it means not having safeguards.”
Listen at 54:03
The United States leads China in AI.
“I will defend all day long that we're in the lead.”
Listen at 54:26
Republicans will suffer electorally in 2028 if they neglect AI security.
“If Republicans do not take this seriously, we will regret it in 2028.”
Listen at 57:11
AI could become humanity’s most transformative and beneficial technology.
“I believe that AI can be the most life-saving, life-giving, life-changing technology in the history of humanity.”
Listen at 59:24
AI makes Janet Kelly substantially more capable at her work.
“it makes me 10 times smarter than I really am.”
Listen at 1:01:59
AI proficiency helped a recent graduate obtain a job.
“He got a job because he knows how to use AI.”
Listen at 1:06:39
Forty-two percent of Americans fear AI will take their jobs.
“42% of Americans are afraid that AI is going to. take their job.”
Listen at 1:07:02
Congress should pass kids’ online safety legislation.
“One thing that they could do very easily is to pass kids online safety legislation.”
Listen at 1:08:27
Kids’ online safety legislation has support from 93% of Americans.
“it's a 93% issue.”
Listen at 1:08:44
A bipartisan Congress should codify the SI accords.
“Codifying the SI accords from President Trump's leadership and the SI task force work, I think would be another good step that a bipartisan Congress could do.”
Listen at 1:09:24
Republicans must quickly improve their AI messaging before 2028.
“Republicans have got to figure it out and figure it out quickly because the 2028 election, as you know, started Last Wednesday.”
Listen at 1:10:02
The United States or China will control the next industrial revolution.
“Whether we control it or China does.”
Listen at 1:10:53
Statements are attributed to the speaker as said on the episode and reflect their view at the time, not PodLume's. They are not advice.
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