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What Austin Camporin has said on podcasts
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Stressed debt yielding at least 10% grew from roughly $400 billion to $600 billion.
“in total, we had probably a $400 billion or so stress debt opportunity set, which I'm defining as everything that's 10% or above. in terms of yield, increasing to something like $600 billion over the last year.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 2:41
Rising stressed-debt supply and shrinking demand create favorable technical conditions for distressed investors.
“the upshot is supply up, demand down. That results in an interesting technical setup for what we do.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 3:12
- on High-yield debt maturities through 2029NegativeSep 24, 2026· The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence
About $1 trillion of high-yield debt matures through 2029, half rated B3 or lower.
“there's roughly a trillion dollars of high yield debt that's coming due. roughly half of that is rated B3 or lower.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 4:15
Participating in LME creditor groups improves recoveries by roughly 10 points versus out-of-group participation.
“the delta is roughly 10 points. So I'd point to that and say, okay, that's clear alpha that one can garner through engagement broadly.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 5:08
Distressed-credit underwriting must assess the business, documents, and creditor group.
“you very much have to underwrite all three. The credit itself for the business, the docs, And then probably even more important than the docs itself, because the docs generally tend to be loose, is who the creditor group is.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 5:57
- on Distressed-credit tranche positionPositiveSep 24, 2026· The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence
A position of roughly 4% to 5% of a tranche can enable effective creditor engagement.
“I'd argue it tends to be around four, maybe 5% of a given tranche is sufficient size.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 6:48
- on CLO selling after B3-to-CCC downgradesNegativeSep 24, 2026· The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence
Downgrades from B3 to CCC trigger CLO selling pressure on leveraged loans.
“when a levered loan gets downgraded from B3 to triple C, you have CLOs who are what effectively amount to four sellers and that results in incremental pressure.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 8:53
CCC credit trades at a historically wide spread relative to single-B and double-B credit.
“triple C is relative to single Bs and also double Bs is wider than it's ever been in history.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 9:52
Loan transfer restrictions let sponsors determine which investors may own or receive loans.
“those provisions effectively allow a sponsor or an owner of a business to determine who and who cannot receive or own or be assigned the loan.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 10:56
Disqualified lender lists prevent many large managers from investing in distressed opportunities.
“they have a very severe impact and effectively preclude large managers or many large managers who find themselves on these DQ lists from actually investing in the opportunity set.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 12:53
Roughly 85% to 90% of stressed issuers have capital structures below $5 billion.
“about 85% to 90% of the issuers are in capital structures that are $5 billion and below. Really, the vast majority are in capital structures $3 billion and below.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 16:47
Short-duration maturities are preferable in software credit underwriting.
“the maturity profile of short duration”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 21:52
- on Software companies with enterprise contractsPositiveSep 24, 2026· The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence
Long-term enterprise contracts help support software-credit underwriting.
“longer term contracts, right, with a lot of enterprise customers”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 22:05
Software, healthcare services, industrials, building products, packaging, and commercial services dominate stressed credit.
“software is top of the heap. After that, in no particular order, we have healthcare services, and then we generally have what I call industrials, of which building products is a large percentage. And then you have packaging-type companies or other commercial-type services.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 25:18
Healthcare-service costs rose about 27% while Medicare reimbursement fell 10% from 2020 to 2025.
“if you look at over, I think, from 2020 to 2025, we had costs increase something order of magnitude of 27%. Meanwhile, reimbursement from Medicare, I think, dropped 10%.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 28:09
Attractive risk-adjusted returns do not require investing solely in reorganized equity or lengthy restructurings.
“we don't actually feel as though we need to invest solely in reorg equities or long tail restructurings to drive what I'd say are attractive risk adjusted returns.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 29:15
Amend-and-extend transactions have become more common as maturity walls approach.
“you have seen more consensual amend and extend transactions”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 35:50
About $150 billion of post-LME debt may require restructuring over the next four to five years.
“the post LME debt, which, absent a hockey stick-like recovery in some of these businesses, are going to have to restructure with these lockdown docks. It's about $150 billion in size, maturing over the next kind of four or five-year time period.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 38:56
A 100-basis-point rate move will not rescue many distressed businesses.
“A hundred basis point move in rates, higher or lower, isn't what saves these businesses”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 41:28
Only a very large recovery could prevent the maturity wall from materially affecting distressed businesses.
“You would really need a large hockey stick-like recovery not to see the impending maturity wall have the impact that at least we're underwriting to.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 42:24
Future credit-market distress will remain contained rather than broadly contagious.
“My expectation is it will be contained.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 42:53
Dispersion in stressed credit will continue and may increase.
“this dispersion that you're saying is going to continue and if anything increase”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 43:29
- on Private-credit alternative financingPositiveSep 24, 2026· The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence
Private-credit distress could make alternative financing less attractive, benefiting syndicated-loan holders.
“that deal away gets repriced and maybe isn't as attractive as it once was. So from a competitive standpoint, that is good for the broadly syndicated loan folks”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 44:46
Private-credit funding costs are increasing.
“the cost of that capital to private credit is increasing”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 45:48
- on CLO participation in restructuringsPositiveSep 24, 2026· The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence
Allowing CLOs to provide new money enables them to extend loan maturities.
“anything that can be done to allow them to participate in new money. That allows them to extend maturities”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 46:18
About 9% of the leveraged-loan market is stressed.
“the portion of the stressed credit or the levered loan market that's stressed is about 9%.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 47:25
AI can automate document conversion but cannot replace access to distressed-credit data rooms.
“AI might help you on one aspect in terms of taking that PDF and dropping it into maybe an Excel spreadsheet, but you have to get access first”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 49:14
- on Long-duration investment-grade creditPositiveSep 24, 2026· The Credit Edge by Bloomberg Intelligence
Long-duration investment-grade credit is an efficient hedge for distressed-credit exposure.
“one of the best ways to reduce it cheaply is with longer duration IG credit.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 51:21
Technical dislocations create opportunities to buy credits yielding more than their fundamentals justify.
“the ability for us to pick up what I think are undervalued credits, basically babies with the bathwater that are yielding far more than the LTV or our fundamental underwrite would dictate.”
Open the episode · Magnetar Scours $600 Billion Stressed Debt Pile for Bond, Loan ValueListen at 52:07
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