What podcasts say about Bryan Whalen
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What Bryan Whalen has said on podcasts
16 statements · 6 positive · 9 negative · 1 neutral
Securitized bonds offer better value and risk compensation than corporate bonds.
“areas like agency mortgage-backed securities. asset-backed securities, commercial mortgage-backed securities, that while not cheap, looking back historically as to where the pricing is, definitely seem to offer better value and better compensation for risk than we find in the corporate bond market.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 8:48
The housing market will not repeat the 2008–09 crisis.
“We don't have a really bearish view. This is not going to be 08, 09 again. We're not going to see that in the housing market.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 11:09
Senior securitized investments face no meaningful impairment risk.
“you're not talking about risk of impairment to your investment at all.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 12:35
Consumer spending sentiment will become more negative for the rest of the year.
“We do think, you know, for the rest of the year, the narrative on the consumer and consumer spending, which makes up a large slug of our economy, will shift to more kind of negative kind of conversation.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 20:28
Credit spreads should widen as consumer risks increase.
“And that means all these spreads, and I've talked about, that should go higher. We call them wider.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 20:59
AI infrastructure investment is more likely than not to be overbuilt.
“more likely than not, we vote we're going to overbuild.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 27:00
AI technology is more likely than not to produce an unexpected disruption.
“more likely than not, this technology is going to throw us a curveball, almost definitionally, that we're not expecting.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 27:04
AI-related bond markets will eventually reset to equilibrium pricing.
“the market will do what beautiful markets do, which is just reset to an equilibrium and find the right clearing price.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 31:57
Investors in AI structured deals will be surprised by lower clearing prices during market stress.
“I think people, a lot of investors in these deals today are going to be unpleasantly surprised by what the clearing price is going to be in a market that's going bump.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 32:03
Major hyperscalers will withstand an AI disruption without major financial damage.
“your big, your Metas, your Microsoft, your Amazons, Googles. they're going to be just fine.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 35:45
Hyperscaler debt offers 20–40 basis points more yield than average investment-grade bonds.
“you can buy your average hyperscaler right now. you know, with an extra 20, 30, 40 basis points of yield versus your average IG bond”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 37:04
AI-related risks are underpriced and insufficiently compensated by markets.
“We just think there's a higher probability they will than the market seems to be pricing in. And there's very little compensation for that probability.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 38:46
An AI disruption would be manageable rather than catastrophic.
“If the AI journey is disrupted, it's a speed bump.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 39:40
AI-related debt supply will remain massive over the next 15 months.
“for the next 15 months We're going to continue to see this massive amount of supply of debt.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 40:16
Hyperscaler debt will trade wide for years because of heavy supply.
“It's going to be years before their debt trades through the average investment grade bar. Because of so much supply, it'll continue to trade wide.”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 41:24
AI structured-debt markets could reprice after one deal fails.
“you could very well see the broader complex reprice”
Open the episode · TCW Chops Credit Risk to Lowest in 30 Years as CCCs ‘Cry Uncle’Listen at 43:51
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