What podcasts say about Jon Petersen
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What Jon Petersen has said on podcasts
28 statements · 19 positive · 7 negative · 2 neutral
REITs probably will not repeat their 2022 performance under higher rates.
“I don't think we'll see a repeat of what we saw in 2022”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 11:13
Higher interest rates increase real estate financing costs.
“if interest rates go up, then your cost of debt on... financing that building would go up”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 11:56
Higher real estate cap rates reduce property values.
“Cap rates go up, values go down”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 12:08
Five-percent Treasury yields may cause near-term REIT underperformance.
“I don't know if that creates a new sort of mental block for the community that drives a little bit of underperformance here in the near term”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 12:34
Higher rates have limited new real estate supply growth.
“supply growth is very limited because it just hasn't made economic sense to start new real estate projects over the past few years”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 13:17
Muted new supply currently leaves the REIT sector healthy.
“the sector is in a healthy position because new supply growth is fairly muted right now”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 13:32
REIT earnings are expected to grow about 7% annually over the next few years.
“our expectation for earnings growth over the next few years is about seven percent a year”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 13:47
The U.S. 80-plus population is expected to grow above 5% annually for ten years.
“the expectation for population growth of that demographic is expected to be above 5 percent for the next 10 years”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 14:48
Welltower and Ventas currently have 15–20% annual same-property NOI growth.
“they're seeing same property net operating income growth in the 15 to 20 percent range annually right now”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 16:08
Logistics REIT earnings growth is expected to remain strong.
“we expect earnings growth to still be strong”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 18:03
Limited mall supply and tenant demand are driving mall values higher.
“it's driving values higher”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 21:15
Digital Realty and Equinix primarily own data centers in major U.S. markets.
“That's where Digital Realty and Equinix primarily own their data centers”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 23:17
AI inference will become more important relative to training.
“inference is going to become a lot more important”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 24:18
Greater AI inference demand will shift demand toward major data-center markets.
“that's going to drive, I think, more of this demand into. the major tier one data center markets”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 24:24
Building new data centers in Northern Virginia is nearly impossible.
“It's very difficult to build a new data center, almost impossible in a place like Northern Virginia”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 25:35
Digital Realty is well positioned to raise rents substantially over the next few years.
“we think are actually very well positioned over the next few years to push rents quite a bit higher”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 26:21
Current hyperscaler leases will eventually be repriced downward to market.
“there is going to be a day of reckoning where the leases that are signed today are going to be marked back down to market”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 27:23
Data-center REITs have performed very well over the past few years.
“the data center read sector has done very well”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 27:52
Bitcoin-miner-turned-AI data-center companies are highly volatile.
“They're very volatile”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 29:02
REITs outperformed the broader market for seven years after the dot-com bubble burst.
“Once the dot-com bubble burst... REITs outperformed the broader market on a total return basis for seven straight years in a row”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 30:45
The AI infrastructure trade will eventually end.
“this AI infrastructure, this AI trade won't last forever”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 31:01
Real estate will probably be a healthy investment if the AI bubble bursts.
“If we are in an AI bubble and it starts to burst, real estate probably is a healthy place to be”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 31:29
REITs are well positioned to withstand another recession.
“if we had another recession, I think that REITs are very well positioned here”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 32:06
The average REIT dividend yield is currently about 3.5%.
“The average dividend yield of a REIT today is about 3.5%”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 32:28
A REIT’s yield on cost could rise from 3.5% to 7% as dividends grow.
“that 3.5% yield can turn into a 7% yield over time as they increase dividends”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 32:58
REITs could deliver about 10.5% total returns if valuation multiples remain unchanged.
“that should be about a 10.5% total return, assuming multiples stay the same”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 33:35
Selecting REIT subsectors with stronger earnings growth likely improves returns.
“if you spend time in the REIT sector and pay attention to which subsectors are seeing the best earnings growth, you're going to get better returns over time, likely”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 34:37
Converting offices into apartments can work in New York and San Francisco.
“I think places like New York and San Francisco, it can work”
Open the episode · Will Real Estate Protect Your Portfolio if the AI Bubble Bursts?Listen at 36:03
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