What podcasts say about Annie Jacobsen
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What Annie Jacobsen has said on podcasts
68 statements · 14 positive · 40 negative · 2 mixed · 12 neutral
- on Genetic modification of pathogensNegativeJul 31, 2026· The Joe Rogan Experience: Protect Our Parks
Genetic modification can make pathogens more virulent and transmissible.
“Because think about what you can do with genetic modification. Make it more virulent, more transmissible.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 2:36
- on Genetic modification of pathogensNegativeJul 31, 2026· The Joe Rogan Experience: Protect Our Parks
Genetic modification can enable pathogens to defeat vaccines and antibiotics.
“And make it defeat existing vaccines and antibiotics.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 2:42
Many experts regard gain-of-function research as biological-weapons engineering.
“most of the people I talked to said gain of function is a euphemism for biological weapons engineering.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 6:56
Some countermeasure research requires making pathogens more virulent and transmissible.
“in order for us to find a cure, we have to make the pathogen more virulent, more transmissible.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 10:09
Gain-of-function research can produce pneumonic plague resistant to antibiotics.
“Gain of function does. You can learn how to outfox antibiotics so that you can turn mother nature's pneumonic plague, which used to be curable, with antibiotics to have no cure.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 14:07
Jacobsen’s nuclear and biological-war books model Pentagon war-game scenarios.
“the nuclear war and biological war are written in the future. They're scenarios based on Pentagon war games.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 20:48
Pandemic war games end when anarchy and chaos overwhelm the scenario.
“There's a point in all these plans where anarchy and chaos takes over and the war game ends.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 25:37
The devolution plan uses predesignated officials trained to continue government operations.
“the devolution plan happens. Which I learned means a subset of pre designated officials. They know who they are, they've signed contracts, they've rehearsed it.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 27:06
Jacobsen’s nuclear-war scenario has Russia strike Raven Rock with five bombs.
“Russia would put, like, five nuclear bombs on Raven Rock, and it would just”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 30:49
Scarcity combined with infection fears changes people’s minds.
“fear of infection, people begin to. Their mind actually begins to change in the studies under scarcity.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 42:12
Afia Siddiqui possessed plans for a genetically modified rabies-chickenpox pathogen.
“in her handbag she had plans to create a genetically modified pathogen that mixed rabies with chickenpox.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 45:07
The Pentagon issued 1.7 million gas masks to personnel.
“the Pentagon has issued 1.7 million gas masks to its personnel.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 49:58
Women comprise 17% of the military, according to Jacobsen.
“there's 17% females in the military.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 52:23
Jacobsen evaluates starting the Iran war as an unnecessary, terrible idea.
“when anyone starts a war, that's not necessary. That's the wrong word for it. But, you know, just like this is the whole. It's just a terrible, terrible, terrible idea.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 57:23
Jacobsen agrees America should have a military draft to broaden war experience.
“And I agree with him.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:00:50
The number of U.S. BSL-4 labs rose from two to 15, with 110 worldwide.
“America goes from having two BSL labs to having 15. And the world follows suit. So there are 110 BSL4 labs around the world”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:06:15
Ninety percent of 3,500 worldwide BSL-3 laboratories lack safety guidelines.
“there are 3500. 90% of them have no guidelines for safety.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:07:18
AI-enabled computational biology could let a minimally trained student make a bioweapon.
“basically, a high school student with limited knowledge of biology can make a bioweapon in their basement or in the Vegas apartment building.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:09:37
Jacobsen recommends action to address biological-threat risks and laboratory oversight.
“something really needs to be done and needs to be looked at here.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:15:32
The Plum Island laboratory was moved to Kansas and conducts the same research.
“They moved it off of Plum island and now it's in Kansas.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:16:33
Jacobsen says acupuncture works for her and prefers it to drugs.
“I have acupuncture and it just seems like anytime I go for anything, someone wants to give me drugs, which I'm not a fan of, I go to the acupuncturist. Sure, call it the placebo effect or call it whatever you want, but it certainly works for me.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:19:34
Uncertainty raises cortisol levels.
“uncertainty raises your cortisol levels.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:25:17
Surface transmission accounted for one in 10,000 COVID-19 cases.
“We now know that 1 in 10,000 cases of COVID was transmitted from a surface.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:26:46
Exposure to ordinary dirt is beneficial for health.
“that dirt is really good for you, you know?”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:29:37
The HHS secretary, not Fauci, is formally responsible during a biological incident.
“The person in charge is the Secretary of hhs. That is the person in charge.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:36:26
Jacobsen alleges scientists conspired to change COVID-19’s origin narrative.
“they began to conspire to change the story.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:40:12
Fauci suggested himself for million-dollar awards.
“Dr. Fauci, you know, suggesting himself for these million dollar awards”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:52:43
- on U.S. military, State Department, and intelligence communityPositiveJul 31, 2026· The Joe Rogan Experience: Protect Our Parks
Many U.S. military, diplomatic, and intelligence personnel are highly capable.
“there are extraordinary number of people in our military, in our State Department, in the intelligence community, who are actually really capable people doing their job under extraordinary circumstances.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 1:53:56
Biological-weapons treaties should ban dangerous genetic engineering and require enforcement.
“If you have a treaty outlawing that and everybody's agreeing to allow for transparency, that's what treaties really do. It's not just a handshake. It needs an enforcement.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 2:01:07
Arms-control treaties create communication channels between adversaries.
“what it does is it creates back channels, right? It creates dialogue between adversaries and enemies.”
Open the episode · #2534 - Annie JacobsenListen at 2:01:50
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