Published Tue, Nov 3, 2026 · Covers Mon, Nov 2, 2026

Apple’s escape from AI spending fears costs 36 times earnings

The big picture

An Expensive AI Refuge Avoiding the AI spending race has become an expensive refuge in Apple (AAPL). The shares have gained 12% over three months, and Will Merides argues that Apple escapes the hyperscalers’ questions about cash burn and returns on AI investment. Michael Santoli supplies the valuation tension: shares trade at 36 times earnings, but he expects 15% revenue growth, the strongest year since 2021. Investors are paying for distance from the spending problem; that leaves the strength of Apple’s own growth doing more of the work.

… skepticism has been in place for Apple for the entire year. Tell me why. Evaluation. Everyone sees 36 times. That's the richest valuation it's had since 2008. It puts us in the 99th percentile. On the other side of it, they're going to have the best revenue growth year since 2021 at 15%.
Michael Santoli · Halftime Report · 2026-11-02 · Apple Earnings Preview · Episode
Apple’s refuge trade outpaces the marketApple and SPY, indexed to compare performance.
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Evidence: 2 expert calls
  • Michael Santoli · Halftime Report · 2026-11-02 · long Apple Inc.“they're going to have the best revenue growth year since 2021 at 15%.” Episode
  • Will Merides · Bloomberg Tech · 2026-11-02 · long Apple Inc.“it doesn't have questions about negative cash burn it doesn't have questions about the ROI side of things” Episode

The Calendar Offers No Insurance Wednesday’s edition examined bullish equities alongside a rate-hike call; the latest podcasts introduce a different disagreement over whether the midterm calendar itself supports a rally. In its November 3 report, The Washington Post described falling global shares and U.S. futures alongside rising oil after defensive strikes on Iranian targets in the Strait of Hormuz. That rebound followed a week through Monday in which the United States Brent Oil Fund (BNO) fell 6% and the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) lost 2%. In a new call, Rashad al-Alimi expects the broad market to rise over the following year, leaning on the post-midterm historical record, though he also flags geopolitical risks. John Hardy’s latest assessment rejects the election cycle as a reliable guide because unusually strong preceding gains can leave a less favorable starting point—the calendar alone does not resolve that disagreement.

… So in other words, your expected returns might be a little bit worse when you're starting from such staggeringly high performance over prior years. That would be my main warning. And secondarily, it feels like a very random walk. So I wouldn't use the midterms of the political cycle as being very indicative. of where the markets might head. All right, let's get to what yesterday did bring. And we were, you know, once again, had negative vibes in the tech sector. The most interesting thing being is that …
John Hardy · Saxo Market Call · 2026-11-03 · Show Introduction and Election Day Disclaimer · Episode
Stocks enter the election after a retreatSPY fell 2% over the week through November 2.
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The odds behind SPY SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust

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Earlier coverage: 2026-10-28: Gundlach turns bullish on stocks without giving up his December hike call

Evidence: 2 expert calls · 1 news article
  • John Hardy · Saxo Market Call · 2026-11-03 · neutral U.S. midterm elections“I wouldn't use the midterms of the political cycle as being very indicative. of where the markets might head.” Episode
  • Rashad al-Alimi · Market Mondays · 2026-11-03 · positive U.S. stock market“We have like 100% chance that the stock market as a whole is going to go up over the next year.” Episode
  • Tech losses weigh on global markets ahead of US midterm elections, while oil prices rise · The Washington Post · 2026-11-03

The day in signals

Clorox Only Needs Normal Clorox (CLX) does not need a return to peak profitability for Dave Sequeira’s valuation case to work: his margin forecast remains below its pre-pandemic average, yet he sees substantial upside if sales and margins begin normalizing. He puts the shares at 14 times forward earnings; the stock has already risen 12% over the past month, making evidence of that normalization the next test.

… is only 14 .4 but yet we're still only projecting that you know to be well below the eight -year pre -pandemic average which was 18 .1 stock only trades at a 14 times forward earnings multiple so To me, I think if we get any kind of indication that things are starting to normalize here, I think there's a lot of upside in this one.
Dave Sequeira · The Morning Filter · 2026-11-02 · Earnings Preview: Apple, Palantir, Clorox, and Arm · Episode
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Evidence: 1 expert call
  • Dave Sequeira · The Morning Filter · 2026-11-02 · long CLOROX CO /DE/“I think if we get any kind of indication that things are starting to normalize here, I think there's a lot of upside in this one.” Episode

Cheaper Nvidia Loses A Bull A lower valuation no longer persuades Ed Elson, who has flipped from bullish to bearish on Nvidia (NVDA). He now sees its interconnected financing relationships and growing dependence on fundraising as vulnerabilities to a change in market sentiment, enough to keep him from buying despite the multiple’s contraction. With shares down 14% over a month, his objection is to the financing structure, not simply the price.

But that's why I can't do it, because of that. I mean, this is just classic bubble behavior. And the FTX comparison, I think, is a good one, because what was it that brought FTX down? it was a change in market sentiment. As soon as you leave …
Ed Elson · Prof G Markets · 2026-11-02 · AI Infrastructure, Bubble Risks, and Circular Financing · Episode
Evidence: 1 expert call
  • Ed Elson · Prof G Markets · 2026-11-02 · short NVIDIA CORP“this is just classic bubble behavior.” Episode

Google’s Model Call Settles Peter Diamandis’s October 31 assessment that Google, part of Alphabet (GOOG), had regained AI leadership matched the October best-model market’s YES settlement. His argument rested on Gemini’s benchmark performance; he also disclosed Google’s sponsorship of the podcast and said it had no editorial control. This settled the model-leadership call, not an investment thesis or a broader forecasting record.

… this morning we're going to open up with a sequence of four stories about Google. Quick reminder and disclosure, Google is one of our sponsors on this pod, but they have no editorial control. But we had to cover this. Google is so back. They've taken back the AI crown. So on Wednesday, Google CEO Sundar Pichai announced. Gemini 4 Carbon, only two weeks after announcing Argon. And that's the pace of the frontier, right? Two major models from a …
Peter Diamandis · Moonshots with Peter Diamandis · 2026-10-31 · Google Reclaims the AI Frontier · Episode
Evidence: 1 expert call
  • Peter Diamandis · Moonshots with Peter Diamandis · 2026-10-31 · yes Will Google have the best AI model at the end of October 2026?“Google is so back. They've taken back the AI crown.” Episode

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