Published Mon, Nov 9, 2026 · Covers Fri, Nov 6 to Sun, Nov 8, 2026
Dan Ives turns bearish on Apple’s refuge-from-AI premium
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Safety Gets Too Expensive Escaping the data-center spending race does not make Apple (AAPL) cheap: Dan Ives has switched from bullish to bearish on its relative valuation. He accepts that Apple benefits from uncertainty around AI infrastructure, but argues that its premium over Microsoft (MSFT), at roughly 35–37 times earnings, already reflects that advantage. Apple remains up 2% over the month through Friday, against a flat Microsoft. His objection is to the price of shelter, not the shelter itself—a distinction that makes this a valuation reversal rather than a claim that Apple’s business is deteriorating.
Scarlet Fu: … did raise $7.5 billion on its own this week just because it can. Are people going to continue to see Apple as a beneficiary of the uncertainty over data centers?
Dan Ives: I think so. But at the same time, I mean, the valuation gap is now way too much I mean, it's like Apple's trading at 35, 37 times and Microsoft is like nowhere close to it. If you historically go see the spread between the two, I don't …
Dan Ives · Bloomberg Intelligence · 2026-11-06 · Data Center Delays and Hyperscaler Spending · EpisodeApple retains its relative resilienceIndexed share prices show the performance backdrop to Ives’s valuation objection, not the earnings-multiple gap itself.Prices by TradingView
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Dan Ives · Bloomberg Intelligence · 2026-11-06 · short Apple Inc.“the valuation gap is now way too much” Episode
A Rebound Without Permission The AI rebound has not resolved the distinction between protecting existing projects and permitting new ones. AP reports that global markets recovered Monday after Wall Street’s AI rebound, but Invesco QQQ Trust (QQQ) still finished Friday down 5% for the week. Since Thursday’s discussion of delayed data-center paydays, the latest podcasts add a concrete policy test: Steve Cress argues that previously negotiated contracts make a wholesale construction halt unlikely, whereas Josh Shapiro says Pennsylvania requires local approval, self-generated power and full payment of electricity costs. Shapiro says no project has reached the state for consideration since his executive order because local communities have not embraced them. Those arguments can coexist: an existing construction pipeline may survive even as approvals constrain the next one.
… where the companies are going to invest millions and millions and millions of dollars in that local community. And then you get to come to the state where we have an even higher. bar that you've got to get across. You've got to generate your own power, and a significant amount of it has to be clean energy. And you have to pay 100% of your power costs so that there's no added cost to local consumers. And then we've got very strict requirements on protecting air quality and water quality. But the key to my executive order is The local communities are in charge. We're not …
Josh Shapiro · Pod Save America · 2026-11-08 · AI, Data Centers, and Regulation · EpisodeThe rebound leaves a weekly lossPrices through Friday, before the global recovery AP reported Monday.Prices by TradingView
Josh Shapiro · Pod Save America · 2026-11-08 · positive Pennsylvania data-center requirements“You've got to generate your own power, and a significant amount of it has to be clean energy. And you have to pay 100% of your power costs so that there's no added cost to local consumers.” Episode
Steve Cress · Investing Experts · 2026-11-08 · positive Data centers“It's very unlikely that they're going to stop data centers cold.” Episode
Gold Defies The Headwinds The odds of the Israel–Iran ceasefire lasting through December rose from 36% to 55% this week, and those of a December Fed hike rose from 70% to 76%; on our reading, reduced haven demand and higher interest rates both weigh on gold. Yet SPDR Gold Shares (GLD) gained 5% through Friday. Mike Preston sees a good chance gold has bottomed, citing its recovery toward the 50-day moving average, but remains tentative: the price recovery and those event-market headwinds point in different directions.
We'll see. It's been really, really brutal in gold and silver land. And I think there's a good chance we have seen the bottom. This is GLD, an ETF that tracks the price of gold. We have rallied up to the 50 -day moving average. Take a look at the January top and how... …
Mike Preston · Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart · 2026-11-08 · Gold’s Potential Capitulation Bottom · Episode
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Mike Preston · Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart · 2026-11-08 · long Gold“I think there's a good chance we have seen the bottom.” Episode
Has The Deficit Premium Peaked? Thursday’s peak-yield discussion now has a new disagreement: with the 10-year Treasury yield at 4.84% as of November 5, down 14 basis points over the week, Michael Lebowitz tentatively sees a possible yield peak because deficit and reserve-currency fears are fading. Chris Whalen argues the opposite—that the fiscal concerns which pushed long-term rates higher have not gone away, leaving mortgage activity constrained. The test is whether that risk premium continues to recede without an improvement in the underlying fiscal concerns, rather than merely whether yields can briefly fall.
… underlying break-even inflation data wasn't responsible for nearly that much of a yield increase. You're kind of almost asking a little bit of a psychological question. Has the market gotten over that narrative? Are deficits no longer in the spotlight? I think we may have bottomed in price, topped in yield but I'm not really overly sold on it yet. And we could, look, we could be on our way to 2 % yield, but we get a double bottom. Double …
Michael Lebowitz · Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart · 2026-11-07 · Are Treasury Yields Near a Peak? · Episode
Michael Lebowitz · Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart · 2026-11-07 · yes Will the 5-year Treasury yield dip below 4.45% before 2027?“I think we may have bottomed in price, topped in yield” Episode
Chris Whalen · The Julia La Roche Show · 2026-11-07 · short Long-dated Treasuries“The damage done to long-term interest rates this summer by concerns about the deficit, by other factors, is not going away.” Episode
10-year Treasury yield: 4.84 % (2026-11-05) · U.S. Treasury via FRED
The Wave Call Settles The blue-wave contract has closed YES, matching Kirk Bado’s November 5 assessment that a Democratic wave was underway and its full extent would emerge over the following weeks. His discussion drew on Republican losses in North Carolina and Democratic state-legislature gains; it was an assessment of unfolding results, not a pre-election forecast. This settlement establishes one correct call, not a broader forecasting record.
… some of these state legislatures as well that we're going to be sorting through at Hotline over the next few weeks. I mean, this is just a total and complete wipeout. This has been a really, really devastating election cycle. And I think we're going to find out the crest of this wave over the next few weeks.
Kirk Bado · Politics Politics Politics · 2026-11-05 · Election Night Surprises · EpisodeEvidence: 1 expert call
Kirk Bado · Politics Politics Politics · 2026-11-05 · yes Blue wave in 2026?“And I think we're going to find out the crest of this wave over the next few weeks.” Episode
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